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Message-ID: <20100524190206.GL1292@ucw.cz>
Date:	Mon, 24 May 2010 21:02:07 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@...a.org.au>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Matt Reimer <mattjreimer@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Is it supposed to be ok to call del_gendisk while
 userspace is frozen?


> >>- We're dealing with the symptom, not the cause. Almost always a bad idea.
> >
> >I very much prefer to have a fix for a symptom than no fix at all, which is the
> >realistic alternative in this case.
> >
> >So, I think we should merge the patch and if someone finds the root cause
> >at one point in future, then we can just use the *right* approach instead of
> >the present one.
> >
> >The problem is real and people in the field are affected by it, so if you don't
> >have a working alternative patch, please just let go.
> 
> I'm not denying that the problem is real. What I am concerned about
> is finding a real solution, not just putting a sticky plaster over
> the wound. It seems to me to be much wiser to deal with the issue
> properly now instead of doing extra work later to diagnose what
> might be a harder to reproduce symptom of the same problem. I'd
> happily put the time in now myself, but I simply don't have the time
> this week.
> 
> Would it be possible to apply the patch, adding some sort of new tag
> that can be used to say "This needs further attention", perhaps
> including an enduring reference to this conversation. Later, the
> 'real' fix could include another special tag that says "Proper fix
> for the symptom addressed in commit 5e94f810"?

WARN_ON() whenever patch triggers?


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