linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

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Message-ID: <20100526142430.327ccbc4@schatten.dmk.lab>
Date:	Wed, 26 May 2010 14:24:30 +0200
From:	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>
To:	Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Paul@...p1.linux-foundation.org, felipe.balbi@...ia.com,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:01:49 +0200
Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org> wrote:
> 
> > This is not "protection". This is functioning properly in a real world
> > scenario. Why would the user change the kernel, if the device would be
> > buggy after that? (Except maybe he is a geek)
> 
> Hmm... Why would the user continue to use the program if it slows down
> his device and sucks the battery as a vampire (Except maybe he's a
> moron)? ;)
> 
> ~Vitaly

Because he is using a robust kernel that provides suspend blockers and
is preventing the vampire from sucking power? 

Most users don't even grasp the simple concept of different "programs".
They just have a device and click here and there and are happy. 

Really, what are you getting at? Do you deny that there are programs,
that prevent a device from sleeping? (Just think of the bouncing
cows app)

And if you have two kernels, one with which your device is dead after 1
hour and one with which your device is dead after 10 hours. Which would
you prefer? I mean really... this is ridiculous. 

Cheers,
Flo

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