linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

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Message-ID: <20100526151945.1b3813ac@schatten.dmk.lab>
Date:	Wed, 26 May 2010 15:19:45 +0200
From:	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>
To:	Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Paul@...p1.linux-foundation.org, felipe.balbi@...ia.com,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

On Wed, 26 May 2010 14:55:31 +0200
Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org> wrote:
> 
> > Really, what are you getting at? Do you deny that there are programs,
> > that prevent a device from sleeping? (Just think of the bouncing
> > cows app)
> >
> > And if you have two kernels, one with which your device is dead after 1
> > hour and one with which your device is dead after 10 hours. Which would
> > you prefer? I mean really... this is ridiculous.
> 
> You almost always need to "hack" the mainline software for a
> production system. So do it here as well. Make sure the hack is well
> isolated and local. You can even submit it to the mainline, better as
> a configuration option, _unless_ it is a *framework* that provokes
> writing code in an ugly and unsafe way.
> 
> ~Vitaly

I don't think that the in-kernel suspend block is a bad idea. 

You could probably use the suspend-blockers unconditionally in the
suspend framework to indicate if a suspend is possible or not.
Regardless of opportunistic suspend or not. This way, you don't have to
try-and-fail on a suspend request and thus making suspending
potentially more robust or allowing for a "suspend as soon as
possible" semantic (which is probably a good idea, if you have to grab
your laptop in a hurry to get away).

Cheers,
Flo
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