linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

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Message-ID: <20100527171644.GA2468@srcf.ucam.org>
Date:	Thu, 27 May 2010 18:16:44 +0100
From:	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Arve Hjønnevåg <arve@...roid.com>,
	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>,
	Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Paul@...p1.linux-foundation.org, felipe.balbi@...ia.com,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 07:13:11PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 18:07 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > No. The useful property of opportunistic suspend is that nothing gets 
> > scheduled. That's fundamentally different to a deep idle state.
> 
> I think Alan and Thomas but certainly I am saying is that you can get to
> the same state without suspend.
> 
> Either you suspend (forcefully don't schedule stuff), or you end up
> blocking all tasks on QoS/resource limits and end up with an idle system
> that goes into a deep idle state (aka suspend).
>
> So why isn't blocking every task on a QoS/resource good enough for you?

Because you may then block them in such a way that they never handle an 
event that should wake them.
 
-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@...f.ucam.org
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