linux-kernel - Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-ID: <20100601135818.GN8980@think>
Date:	Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:58:18 -0400
From:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>
To:	Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@...asas.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write

On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 03:50:59PM +0200, Christof Schmitt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 09:03:25AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 12:30:42PM +0200, Christof Schmitt wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 06:30:05PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> > > > On 05/31/2010 06:01 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 10:20 -0400, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> "Christof" == Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@...ibm.com> writes:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Christof> Since the guard tags are created in Linux, it seems that the
> > > > >> Christof> data attached to the write request changes between the
> > > > >> Christof> generation in bio_integrity_generate and the call to
> > > > >> Christof> sd_prep_fn.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Yep, known bug.  Page writeback locking is messed up for buffer_head
> > > > >> users.  The extNfs folks volunteered to look into this a while back but
> > > > >> I don't think they have found the time yet.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Christof> Using ext3 or ext4 instead of ext2 does not show the problem.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Last I looked there were still code paths in ext3 and ext4 that
> > > > >> permitted pages to be changed during flight.  I guess you've just been
> > > > >> lucky.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pages have always been modifiable in flight.  The OS guarantees they'll
> > > > > be rewritten, so the drivers can drop them if it detects the problem.
> > > > > This is identical to the iscsi checksum issue (iscsi adds a checksum
> > > > > because it doesn't trust TCP/IP and if the checksum is generated in
> > > > > software, there's time between generation and page transmission for the
> > > > > alteration to occur).  The solution in the iscsi case was not to
> > > > > complain if the page is still marked dirty.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And also why RAID1 and RAID4/5/6 need the data bounced. I wish VFS
> > > > would prevent data writing given a device queue flag that requests
> > > > it. So all these devices and modes could just flag the VFS/filesystems
> > > > that: "please don't allow concurrent writes, otherwise I need to copy data"
> > > > 
> > > > From what Chris Mason has said before, all the mechanics are there, and it's
> > > > what btrfs is doing. Though I don't know how myself?
> > > 
> > > I also tested with btrfs and invalid guard tags in writes have been
> > > encountered as well (again in 2.6.34). The only difference is that no
> > > error was reported to userspace, although this might be a
> > > configuration issue.
> > 
> > This would be a btrfs bug.  We have strict checks in place that are
> > supposed to prevent buffers changing while in flight.  What was the
> > workload that triggered this problem?
> 
> I am running an internal test tool that creates files with a known
> pattern until the disk is full, reads the data to verify if the
> pattern is still intact, removes the files and starts over.

Ok, is the lba in the output the sector offset?  We can map that to a
btrfs block and figure out what it was.

Btrfs never complains about the IO error?  We really should explode.

-chris
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/