lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <yq17hmhbmkb.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>
Date:	Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:17:56 -0400
From:	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>
To:	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
Cc:	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@...ibm.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@...asas.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write

>>>>> "Nick" == Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de> writes:

>> 1) filesystem changed it
>> 2) corruption on the wire or in the raid controller
>> 3) the page was corrupted while the IO layer was doing the IO.
>> 
>> 1 and 2 are easy, we bounce, retry and everyone continues on with
>> their lives.  With #3, we'll recrc and send the IO down again
>> thinking the data is correct when really we're writing garbage.
>> 
>> How can we tell these three cases apart?

Nick> Do we really need to handle #3? It could have happened before the
Nick> checksum was calculated.

Reason #3 is one of the main reasons for having the checksum in the
first place.  The whole premise of the data integrity extensions is that
the checksum is calculated in close temporal proximity to the data
creation.  I.e. eventually in userland.

Filesystems will inevitably have to be integrity-aware for that to work.
And it will be their job to keep the data pages stable during DMA.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ