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Message-ID: <20100610190136.GD17945@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:01:36 +0100
From:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, david@...g.hm,
	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>,
	Vitaly Wool <vitalywool@...il.com>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	Arve Hj?nnev?g <arve@...roid.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>, tytso@....edu,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux PM <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linux OMAP Mailing List <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@...ia.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] suspend blockers & Android integration

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:46:46PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Thursday, June 10, 2010, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:59:43AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> > > So, for a phone-like system, where you'd generally want to simplify user space,
> > > having a "power manager" in the kernel seems to make sense to me.

> > I'm not clear where this requirement to simplify user space specifically
> > for phones comes from

> This isn't a requirement, but something that IMO is reasonable.

> > - phones do have pretty substantial software stacks that aren't that far away
> > to PCs.

> That doesn't seem to be relevant here.

Sure, that's my point - you seem to be suggesting that phones have a
different requirement here.
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