linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/5] perf: Provide a proper stop action for software events

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Message-ID: <20100610195451.GI5255@nowhere>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:54:53 +0200
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
	Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] perf: Provide a proper stop action for software
	events

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 06:16:16PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 18:12 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 01:10:42PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 12:46 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Something like the below would work, the only 'problem' is that it grows
> > > > hw_perf_event.
> > > 
> > > If we do the whole PAUSEd thing right, we'd not need this I think.
> > 
> > 
> > It's not needed, and moreover software_pmu:stop/start() can be the same
> > than software:pmu:disable/enable() without the need to add another check
> > in the fast path.
> > 
> > But we need perf_event_stop/start() to work on software events. And in fact
> > now that we use the hlist_del_init, it's safe, but a bit wasteful in
> > the period reset path. That's another problem that is not critical, but
> > if you want to solve this by ripping the differences between software and
> > hardware (which I agree with), we need a ->reset_period callback.
> > 
> Why? ->start() should reprogram the hardware, so a
> ->stop()/poke-at-state/->start() cycle is much more flexible.


Reconsidering the situation after remembering the race with software
events on period adjusting:

In fact, if we want to support start/stop on software events, we still
need the if (!software event) in perf_adjust_period(), otherwise
start and stop may race on a software event with the hlist ops.

So it's now both useless and dangerous.

What about keeping this software event check for now?
Once we'll have a pmu:disable_all()/enable_all(), this
can serve as a more appropriate check later.

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