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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1007010803040.18570@hs20-bc2-1.build.redhat.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 08:28:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@...hat.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>
cc: device-mapper development <dm-devel@...hat.com>,
Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...hat.com>, axboe@...nel.dk,
linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, martin.petersen@...cle.com,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 1/2] block: fix leaks associated with discard
request payload
> > It is either/or choice. If the interface isn't fixed NOW, the existing
> > flawed zeroed-page-allocation interface gets into RHEL
>
> That's a false dichotomy. You might see an either apply this hack now
> or support the interface choice with RHEL, but upstream has the option
> to fix stuff correctly. RHEL has never needed my blessing to apply
> random crap to their kernel before ... why is this patch any different?
We can't apply non-upstream patches (except few exceptions such as
dm-raid45). It makes sense, non-upstream patches have smaller test
coverage.
> And the rest of this rubbish is based on that false premise. It might
> help you to take off your SCSI antipathy and see this as a system
> problem: it actually originates in block and spills out from there.
> Thus it requires a system solution.
>
> James
Imagine this: I take a FPGA PCI board, I design a storage controller on it
and this controller will need 3 pages to process a discard request. Now I
say: I refuse to allocate these 3 pages in the driver because the driver
would look ugly --- instead, I demand that everyone in the Linux kernel
who creates a discard request must attach 3 pages to the request for my
driver.
Do you think it is correct behavior? Would you accept such a driver? I
guess you wouldn't! But this is the same thing that you are doing with
SCSI.
Now lets take it a bit further and I say "I may clean up the driver for my
controller one day, when I do it, I remove that 3-page requirement --- and
then, everyone who allocated those pages will have to change his code and
remove the allocations".
And this is what you are intending to do with SCSI.
Mikulas
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