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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 21:41:22 +0200
From: Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To: Darren Hart <dvhltc@...ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
John Kacur <jkacur@...hat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] futex: convert hash_bucket locks to raw_spinlock_t
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 15:33 -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> The requeue_pi mechanism introduced proxy locking of the rtmutex. This creates
> a scenario where a task can wake-up, not knowing it has been enqueued on an
> rtmutex. In order to detect this, the task would have to be able to take either
> task->pi_blocked_on->lock->wait_lock and/or the hb->lock. Unfortunately,
> without already holding one of these, the pi_blocked_on variable can change
> from NULL to valid or from valid to NULL. Therefor, the task cannot be allowed
> to take a sleeping lock after wakeup or it could end up trying to block on two
> locks, the second overwriting a valid pi_blocked_on value. This obviously
> breaks the pi mechanism.
copy/paste offline query/reply at Darren's request..
On Sat, 2010-07-10 at 10:26 -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
On 07/09/2010 09:32 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 13:05 -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
> >
> >> The core of the problem is that the proxy_lock blocks a task on a lock
> >> the task knows nothing about. So when it wakes up inside of
> >> futex_wait_requeue_pi, it immediately tries to block on hb->lock to
> >> check why it woke up. This has the potential to block the task on two
> >> locks (thus overwriting the pi_blocked_on). Any attempt preventing this
> >> involves a lock, and ultimiately the hb->lock. The only solution I see
> >> is to make the hb->locks raw locks (thanks to Steven Rostedt for
> >> original idea and batting this around with me in IRC).
> >
> > Hm, so wakee _was_ munging his own state after all.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, what's wrong with holding his pi_lock across the
> > wakeup? He can _try_ to block, but can't until pi state is stable.
> >
> > I presume there's a big fat gotcha that's just not obvious to futex
> > locking newbie :)
>
> It'll take me more time that I have right now to positive, but:
>
>
> rt_mutex_set_owner(lock, pendowner, RT_MUTEX_OWNER_PENDING);
>
> raw_spin_unlock(¤t->pi_lock);
>
> Your patch moved the unlock before the set_owner. I _believe_ this can
> break the pi boosting logic - current is the owner until it calls
> set_owner to be pendowner. I haven't traced this entire path yet, but
> that's my gut feel.
I _think_ it should be fine to do that. Setting an owner seems to only
require holding the wait_lock. I could easily be missing subtleties
though. Looking around, I didn't see any reason not to unlock the
owner's pi_lock after twiddling pi_waiters (and still don't, but...).
> However, you're idea has merit as we have to take our ->pi_lock before
> we can block on the hb->lock (inside task_blocks_on_rt_mutex()).
>
> If we can't move the unlock above before set_owner, then we may need a:
>
> retry:
> cur->lock()
> top_waiter = get_top_waiter()
> cur->unlock()
>
> double_lock(cur, topwaiter)
> if top_waiter != get_top_waiter()
> double_unlock(cur, topwaiter)
> goto retry
>
> Not ideal, but I think I prefer that to making all the hb locks raw.
>
> You dropped the CC list for some reason, probably a good idea to send
> this back out in response to my raw lock patch (4/4) - your question and
> my reply. This is crazy stuff, no harm in putting the question out there.
>
> I'll take a closer look at this when I can, if not tonight, Monday morning.
-Mike
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