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Message-ID: <4C4F1CBB.7040003@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Date:	Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:51:55 -0700
From:	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Robert Richter <robert.richter@....com>
CC:	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@...ux-sh.org>,
	"eranian@...il.com" <eranian@...il.com>,
	"Gary.Mohr@...l.com" <Gary.Mohr@...l.com>,
	"arjan@...ux.intel.com" <arjan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
	Maynard Johnson <mpjohn@...ibm.com>,
	Carl Love <carll@...ibm.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v1 02/15] perf: export generic hardware events via
 sysfs

On 07/27/2010 01:27 AM, Robert Richter wrote:
> On 26.07.10 22:18:23, Lin Ming wrote:
>
>>>> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/events
>>>> |-- L1-dcache-load-misses
>>>> |   |-- config
>>>> |   `-- type
>
> vs.
>
>>>   |-- L1-dcache-load-misses  ===>  event name
>>>   |   `-- id                 ===>  event id
>
>>> This is very simple and flexible and solves the original problem too.
>>
>> Yeah, this is flexible. I'll think about this closely.
>
> The thing is, if you start introducing the config/type i/f, we will
> stick with it for a long time. I want to avoid this from the
> beginning.
>
> Using an id only would work with your current implementation too, you
> only need to maintain an id ->  config/type mapping, maybe in some
> private data section, without exporting it to userspace.

Now that I understand that the sysfs id essentially points to a kernel 
data structure, I like this idea a lot.  Before I was thinking that you 
were trying to place a lot of info into the id itself.

The only downside I see, and maybe it's a very minor one, is that you'll 
no longer have the ability to specify an event without specifying a 
sysfs path... there's no other mechanism.

- Corey

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