linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] transfer ASYNC vmscan writeback IO to the flusher threads

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Message-ID: <20100730122553.GA6262@localhost>
Date:	Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:25:53 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@...cle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5]  [RFC] transfer ASYNC vmscan writeback IO to the
 flusher threads

> > There are cases we have to do pageout().
> > 
> > - a stressed memcg with lots of dirty pages
> > - a large NUMA system whose nodes have unbalanced vmscan rate and dirty pages
> 
> - 32bit highmem system too

Ah yes!

> can you please see following commit? this describe current design.

Good staff. Thanks.

Thanks,
Fengguang


> 
> 
> 
> commit c4e2d7ddde9693a4c05da7afd485db02c27a7a09
> Author: akpm <akpm>
> Date:   Sun Dec 22 01:07:33 2002 +0000
> 
>     [PATCH] Give kswapd writeback higher priority than pdflush
> 
>     The `low latency page reclaim' design works by preventing page
>     allocators from blocking on request queues (and by preventing them from
>     blocking against writeback of individual pages, but that is immaterial
>     here).
> 
>     This has a problem under some situations.  pdflush (or a write(2)
>     caller) could be saturating the queue with highmem pages.  This
>     prevents anyone from writing back ZONE_NORMAL pages.  We end up doing
>     enormous amounts of scenning.
> 
>     A test case is to mmap(MAP_SHARED) almost all of a 4G machine's memory,
>     then kill the mmapping applications.  The machine instantly goes from
>     0% of memory dirty to 95% or more.  pdflush kicks in and starts writing
>     the least-recently-dirtied pages, which are all highmem.  The queue is
>     congested so nobody will write back ZONE_NORMAL pages.  kswapd chews
>     50% of the CPU scanning past dirty ZONE_NORMAL pages and page reclaim
>     efficiency (pages_reclaimed/pages_scanned) falls to 2%.
> 
>     So this patch changes the policy for kswapd.  kswapd may use all of a
>     request queue, and is prepared to block on request queues.
> 
>     What will now happen in the above scenario is:
> 
>     1: The page alloctor scans some pages, fails to reclaim enough
>        memory and takes a nap in blk_congetion_wait().
> 
>     2: kswapd() will scan the ZONE_NORMAL LRU and will start writing
>        back pages.  (These pages will be rotated to the tail of the
>        inactive list at IO-completion interrupt time).
> 
>        This writeback will saturate the queue with ZONE_NORMAL pages.
>        Conveniently, pdflush will avoid the congested queues.  So we end up
>        writing the correct pages.
> 
>     In this test, kswapd CPU utilisation falls from 50% to 2%, page reclaim
>     efficiency rises from 2% to 40% and things are generally a lot happier.
> 
> 
>     The downside is that kswapd may now do a lot less page reclaim,
>     increasing page allocation latency, causing more direct reclaim,
>     increasing lock contention in the VM, etc.  But I have not been able to
>     demonstrate that in testing.
> 
> 
>     The other problem is that there is only one kswapd, and there are lots
>     of disks.  That is a generic problem - without being able to co-opt
>     user processes we don't have enough threads to keep lots of disks saturated.
> 
>     One fix for this would be to add an additional "really congested"
>     threshold in the request queues, so kswapd can still perform
>     nonblocking writeout.  This gives kswapd priority over pdflush while
>     allowing kswapd to feed many disk queues.  I doubt if this will be
>     called for.
> 
>     BKrev: 3e051055aitHp3bZBPSqmq21KGs5aQ
> 
> 
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