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Message-ID: <AANLkTimZyEyNfx-Y=-qunrw7JdkVPGiYHyYmRrOU4qnX@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:59:13 -0700 From: Nikhil Rao <ncrao@...gle.com> To: Mike Galbraith <efault@....de> Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>, Ken Chen <kenchen@...gle.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] [RFC] Large weight differential leads to inefficient load balancing On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Mike Galbraith <efault@....de> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 22:19 -0700, Nikhil Rao wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We have observed that a large weight differential between tasks on a runqueue >> leads to sub-optimal machine utilization and poor load balancing. For example, >> if you have lots of SCHED_IDLE tasks (sufficient number to keep the machine 100% >> busy) and a few SCHED_NORMAL soaker tasks, we see that the machine has >> significant idle time. >> >> The data below highlights this problem. The test machine is a 4 socket quad-core >> box (16 cpus). These experiemnts were done with v2.6.25-rc6. We spawn 16 >> SCHED_IDLE soaker threads (one per-cpu) to completely fill up the machine. CPU >> utilization numbers gathered from mpstat for 10s are: >> >> 03:30:24 PM CPU %user %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %idle intr/s >> 03:30:25 PM all 99.94 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16234.65 >> 03:30:26 PM all 99.88 0.06 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16374.00 >> 03:30:27 PM all 99.94 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16392.00 >> 03:30:28 PM all 99.94 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16612.12 >> 03:30:29 PM all 99.88 0.00 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16375.00 >> 03:30:30 PM all 99.94 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16440.00 >> 03:30:31 PM all 99.81 0.00 0.19 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16237.62 >> 03:30:32 PM all 99.94 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16360.00 >> 03:30:33 PM all 99.94 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16405.00 >> 03:30:34 PM all 99.38 0.06 0.50 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.06 18881.82 >> Average: all 99.86 0.02 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.01 16628.20 >> >> We then spawn one SCHED_NORMAL while-1 task (the absolute number does not matter >> so long as we introduce some large weight differential). >> >> 03:40:57 PM CPU %user %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %idle intr/s >> 03:40:58 PM all 83.06 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16.88 14555.00 >> 03:40:59 PM all 78.25 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 21.69 14527.00 >> 03:41:00 PM all 82.71 0.06 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 17.17 14879.00 >> 03:41:01 PM all 87.34 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.59 15466.00 >> 03:41:02 PM all 80.80 0.06 0.19 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 18.95 14584.00 >> 03:41:03 PM all 82.90 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 17.04 14570.00 >> 03:41:04 PM all 79.45 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 20.49 14536.00 >> 03:41:05 PM all 86.48 0.00 0.07 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.46 14577.00 >> 03:41:06 PM all 76.73 0.06 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.06 0.00 23.10 14594.00 >> 03:41:07 PM all 86.48 0.00 0.07 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.45 14703.03 >> Average: all 82.31 0.02 0.08 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.00 17.59 14699.10 > > What happens with s/SCHED_IDLE/nice 19? > > -Mike We see the same result with nice 19 as well. w/ 16 nice-19 soakers: 10:15:16 AM CPU %user %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %idle intr/s 10:15:17 AM all 0.06 99.94 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16296.04 10:15:18 AM all 0.00 99.94 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16379.00 10:15:19 AM all 0.00 99.94 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16414.00 10:15:20 AM all 0.00 99.94 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16413.00 10:15:21 AM all 0.00 100.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16402.00 10:15:22 AM all 0.00 99.88 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.06 0.00 0.00 16419.00 10:15:23 AM all 0.00 99.94 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16406.00 10:15:24 AM all 0.19 99.69 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16613.13 10:15:25 AM all 0.38 99.31 0.31 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16313.86 10:15:26 AM all 0.50 99.31 0.19 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 16623.23 Average: all 0.11 99.79 0.09 0.00 0.00 0.01 0.00 0.00 16427.30 w/ adding a SCHED_NORMAL soaker to the mix: 10:17:44 AM CPU %user %nice %sys %iowait %irq %soft %steal %idle intr/s 10:17:45 AM all 6.20 74.38 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 19.35 14419.80 10:17:46 AM all 6.25 74.89 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 18.80 14619.00 10:17:47 AM all 6.30 74.84 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 18.79 14590.00 10:17:48 AM all 6.25 80.57 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.12 15511.00 10:17:49 AM all 6.51 80.33 0.07 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.09 14904.00 10:17:50 AM all 6.06 72.62 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 21.26 14564.00 10:17:51 AM all 6.21 74.47 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 19.25 14584.00 10:17:52 AM all 6.47 77.67 0.12 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 15.73 15295.96 10:17:53 AM all 6.27 79.39 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 14.29 15251.00 10:17:54 AM all 6.32 75.85 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 17.83 14537.00 Average: all 6.28 76.47 0.06 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 17.18 14826.70 The problem is the large weight differential between nice 19/SCHED_IDLE and SCHED_NORMAL. I ran a quick experiment with the soaker tasks at different nice levels. Data is in the table below. First column is nice level, second is idle% on the machine (mpstat 10s average) and third is ratio of nice weight/1024. 0 0.00 1 1 0.00 0.800781 2 0.00 0.639648 3 0.00 0.513672 4 0.00 0.413086 5 0.17 0.327148 6 1.06 0.265625 7 7.62 0.209961 8 4.47 0.167969 9 11.78 0.133789 10 13.52 0.107422 11 14.92 0.0849609 12 14.33 0.0683594 13 17.47 0.0546875 14 15.89 0.0439453 15 18.69 0.0351562 16 16.63 0.0283203 17 17.04 0.0224609 18 17.86 0.0175781 19 18.13 0.0146484 It looks like we start seeing seeing sub-optimal performance when the weight ratio is >0.3. -Thanks, Nikhil -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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