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Message-ID: <20100804151858.GB5130@lenovo>
Date:	Wed, 4 Aug 2010 19:18:58 +0400
From:	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Don Zickus <dzickus@...hat.com>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@....com>,
	Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@...el.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"fweisbec@...il.com" <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: A question of perf NMI handler

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 05:02:41PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 10:52 -0400, Don Zickus wrote:
> > > Right so I looked up your thing and while that limits the damage in that
> > > at some point it will let NMIs pass, it will still consume too many.
> > > Meaning that Yinghai will have to potentially press his NMI button
> > > several times before it registers.
> > 
> > Ok.  Thanks for reviewing.  How does it consume to many?  I probably don't
> > understand how perf is being used in the non-simple scenarios.
> 
> Suppose you have 4 counters (AMD, intel-nhm+), when more than 2 overflow
> the first will raise the PMI, if the other 2+ overflow before we disable
> the PMU it will try to raise 2+ more PMIs, but because hardware only has
> a single interrupt pending bit it will at most cause a single extra
> interrupt after we finish servicing the first one.
> 
> So then the first interrupt will see 3+ overflows, return 3+, and will
> thus eat 2+ NMIs, only one of which will be the pending interrupt,
> leaving 1+ NMIs from other sources to consume unhandled.
> 
> In which case Yinghai will have to press his NMI button 2+ times before
> it registers.
> 
> That said, that might be a better situation than always consuming
> unknown NMIs.. 
> 

Well, first I guess having Yinghai CC'ed is a bonus ;)
The second thing is that I don't get why perf handler can't be _last_
call in default_do_nmi, if there were any nmi with reason (serr or parity)
I think they should be calling first which of course don't eliminate
the former issue but somewhat make it weaken.

	-- Cyrill
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