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Message-ID: <4C5B00A2.5020802@oracle.com>
Date:	Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:19:14 -0700
From:	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>
To:	Nir Tzachar <nir.tzachar@...il.com>
CC:	mmarek@...e.cz, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, sam@...nborg.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nconfig: add search support

On 08/05/10 11:13, Nir Tzachar wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com> wrote:
>> On Tue,  3 Aug 2010 15:28:12 +0300 nir.tzachar@...il.com wrote:
>>
>>> From: Nir Tzachar <nir.tzachar@...il.com>
>>>
>>> Remove the old hotkeys feature, and replace by a regular string search.
>>> Behaviour of search is as advised by Sam.
>>>
>>> From nconfig help:
>>>
>>> Searching: pressing '/' triggers search mode. nconfig performs a
>>>            regular string compare, case insensitive, starting at
>>
>> I would say: simple string compare
>> "regular" has no meaning (at least for me) there.
> 
> Regular means strcasecmp...

That's not meaningful to a non-developer user.
I'm a developer and it still has little meaning to me in this context.


>>>            the beginning of each menu line.\n"
>>>            Pressing the up/down keys highlights the previous/next
>>>            matching item. Backspace removes one character from the
>>>            match string. Pressing either '/' again or ESC exits\
>>>            search mode. All other keys behave normally.
>>>
>>> Miscellaneous other changes (including Rundy's Justin's input).
>>
>> Yes, the bottom menu and the typos are fixed.  Thanks.
>>
>> However, I'm not finding this terribly useful, mostly due to it starting
>> comparison at the beginning of each menu line.
>>
>> E.g., I'd like to be able to find "emulations" in the top-level menu here:
>>        Executable file formats / Emulations  --->
>> or I'd like to be able to find "crc" menu items in any sub-menu.
>> Maybe I should just stick to config symbol searches.  I don't think it's all
>> that likely that people will know how each menu line text begins.
>>
>>
> 
> We can replace strcasecmp with strcasestr. I agree it would be more useful.

Yes.

>> As for the search UI, I'd rather that it be presented like the symbol search,
>> in a box, instead of just a single line at the top of the screen.
> 
> But then it is not interactive. I was aiming for something similar to
> vim's search, where the search is matched as you type and the only
> free terminal real-estate to display the match string was at the top
> of the screen. I think such a minimal design is better than a
> cumbersome text box which displays the search results afterwards (as
> is symbol search), as the search is only intended for the currently
> displayed menu and the user would usually just want to save the extra
> typing of navigating to a specific menu item.

OK, I expect that I'll just mostly use symbol search instead of this one then.

The kicker for me is not how/where the dialog is -- it's this comment:

  "as the search is only intended for the currently displayed menu"

I think that's much too limiting.


> Cheers.
> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Nir Tzachar <nir.tzachar@...il.com>
>>> ---
>>>  scripts/kconfig/nconf.c     |  350 +++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>>  scripts/kconfig/nconf.gui.c |   20 ++--
>>>  scripts/kconfig/nconf.h     |    3 +-
>>>  3 files changed, 213 insertions(+), 160 deletions(-)


-- 
~Randy
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