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Date:	Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:52:16 -0700
From:	"Justin P. Mattock" <justinmattock@...il.com>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>, Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>,
	JBeulich@...ell.com, aris@...hat.com, catalin.marinas@....com,
	jacmet@...site.dk, lizf@...fujitsu.com, ulfalizer.lkml@...il.com,
	zippel@...ux-m68k.org, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: fix make oldconfig

On 08/06/2010 11:09 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Sam Ravnborg<sam@...nborg.org>  wrote:
>>
>> Hmm, I wonder why you call oldconfig explicitly?
>>
>> A plain "make -j16" executes "silentoldconfig" if there
>> is any changes in a Kconfig* file or in .config.
>> Just double checked and it works as I expected.
>>
>> So you are asked if there is any new options anyway even
>> if you skip your "oldconfig" step.
>
> Try this:
>
>     git clean -dqfx
>     make -j16>  ../makes
>
> It doesn't work, because "make silentconfig" will say
>
>    ***
>    *** You have not yet configured your kernel!
>    *** (missing kernel config file ".config")
>    ***
>    *** Please run some configurator (e.g. "make oldconfig" or
>    *** "make menuconfig" or "make xconfig").
>    ***
>
> which is why I always run "make oldconfig".
>
> Sure, I could do it only when I need to, but quite frankly, it's much
> easier to just always do the thing that works, rather than try
> something that doesn't work, do something else, and then re-try the
> thing that can fail.
>
>                       Linus
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the above command does break over here. using the make oldconfig command 
seems to be working after I did the make menuconfig.

Now before doing all of this I did make a copy of the entire kernel for 
a new system Im building(clfs) so I went into that tree and did a make 
oldconfig and(luckily) hit the non responsive oldconfig thing that Linus 
had originally posted.

here is a strace of when make oldconfig was not working(with git log at 
the top)

http://fpaste.org/317B/

and strace of a git pull today and make oldconfig does not crap out and 
starts asking me y/n options:

http://fpaste.org/QWWn/

hope this helps with debugging and such.

Justin P. Mattock
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