linux-kernel - Re: [linux-pm] Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread, take three

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Message-ID: <20100813155738.GA11507@isilmar-3.linta.de>
Date:	Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:57:38 +0200
From:	Dominik Brodowski <linux@...inikbrodowski.net>
To:	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@...il.com>
Cc:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, david@...g.hm,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, peterz@...radead.org,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@...gle.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, James.Bottomley@...e.de,
	galibert@...ox.com, florian@...kler.org, menage@...gle.com,
	linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org, swmike@....pp.se,
	tglx@...utronix.de, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	arjan@...radead.org
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Attempted summary of suspend-blockers LKML thread,
	take three

> >> Not Ubuntu, not Fedora, not MeeGo, not anyone with a typical
> >> user-space seems to be having this problem. I can argue to you that
> >> this problem can be solved in easier ways, but instead I will argue
> >> that perhaps we should wait for somebody besides Android to complain
> >> about it before providing a "solution". Because after all, what good
> >> is a "solution" provided by the kernel, if the user-space is not going
> >> to use it, ever.
> >
> > At this point in the discussion, I am quite prepared to believe that you
> > will avoid using suspend blockers, and that you will further do everything
> > in your power to prevent anyone else from using suspend blockers.  ;-)
> 
> I'm not tying anybody's hands.
> 
> How are people using real-time linux if it's not on mainline? Well,
> duuh, you apply the patches. If say Fedora was interested on it, they
> could apply the patches, and see for themselves. People do that all
> the time, with the mm tree, with Con Koliva's patches, etc. Once
> people are happy with the results, things get merged. Why should this
> be any different?

Because millions of users are happy -- with Android, including suspend
blockers.

Best,
	Dominik
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