linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]

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Message-ID: <20100813175410.GA8202@samba1>
Date:	Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:54:10 -0700
From:	Jeremy Allison <jra@...ba.org>
To:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
Cc:	Jeremy Allison <jra@...ba.org>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@...hat.com>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>, utz lehmann <lkml123@...4n2c.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Volker.Lendecke@...net.de, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...ozas.de>,
	linux-cifs@...r.kernel.org, linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org,
	samba-technical@...ts.samba.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsde@...per.es
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make
 extended  file stats available [ver #6]

On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 08:54:32AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 06:05:01AM -0700, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> > We don't need to ape Windows in everything.
> > The coming ACL disaster will show that (we will go from an ACL
> > model that is slightly too complex to use, to one that is impossibly
> > complex to use :-).
> 
> Care to elaborate?

POSIX ACLs -> RichACLs (NT-style). Not criticising Andreas here,
people are asking for this. But Windows ACLs are a nightmare
beyond human comprehension :-). In the "too complex to be
usable" camp.

> And what would native ACL support mean for Samba?

RichACLs'll do it, but I feel sorry for the admins :-).

Jeremy.
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