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Message-ID: <20100820090824.GA23186@darkside.kls.lan>
Date:	Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:08:24 +0200
From:	"Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe" <Mario.Holbe@...Ilmenau.DE>
To:	Ike Panhc <ike.pan@...onical.com>
Cc:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	"platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org" 
	<platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Renninger <trenn@...e.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Corentin Chary <corentincj@...aif.net>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@...el.com>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] [Resend] ideapad: using EC command to control
 rf/camera power

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:01:07PM +0800, Ike Panhc wrote:
> Could you attach or upload the DSDT of S12 somewhere I can reach?

http://sandbox.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/s12/dsdt-s12-via.dsl

> I check DSDT for S10-3 and B550, return value of _CFG is fixed.
> [Ref: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ikepanhc/DSDTs]

Looks more fixed than on my S12, indeed.
I don't really speak AML, but while S10-3 ILDD (called from _CFG) seems
to read fixed values only, here on S12 PHSR (called from _CFG) seems to
do some kind of I/O operation. I'm not sure about this, but it somehow
looks like.

> On 08/20/2010 03:31 AM, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> > Once the cfgbit is 0xc0000 it's stable, i.e. modprobe -r ideapad-laptop;
> > modprobe ideapad-laptop doesn't change anything.
> sounds like we need an exception handle for detecting camera

Why? The camera is always detected - bit 19 is always set, 0xc0000 and
0xd0000 only differ in bit 16. Bit 19 btw. seems to be the only fixed
bit in S12-VIA _CFG :)

> > [  682.260288] ideapad_acpi_add(): cfg=0xc0000
> As I know the cfgbit for lower 16bit shall not be all zero.

Mh, judging from S12-VIA _CFG they definitely are zero here.

> > So, forcing the existence of the killswitch enables the bluetooth
> > device. I'm also able to switch if off again - the bluetooth device
> > disappears. Trying to switch it back on then fails - the bluetooth
> > device does not appear again. But this case doesn't work all that well
> > anyways even with cfgbit 0xd0000:
> bluetooth device shall disappear after disable from EC. But if can not be enabled
> again, ahh.....

> > [  155.628052] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
> > [  170.740049] usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
> > [  185.956033] usb 4-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
> This looks like the device is power up, but usb host unable to recognize..

The bluetooth device seems not to initialize well enough to answer (110
is ETIMEDOUT).

> > Sometimes it doesn't even come back at all on unblock. Seems like the
> > bluetooth device doesn't really like to be powered off and on that way.
> did you see any kernel message said timeout when it does not come back at all?

No, when I said "does not appear again" and "it does not come back at
all" I meant I see not a single message in dmesg about anything
happening.

> If the rfkill for the whole bluetooth module makes trouble, I prefer not to
> do it. User will feel confused if the device does not come back and the
> rfkill of hci0 offers the function user need.

Hmmm, maybe provide a module parm to block rfkill devices and default it
to 1 on S12? Users would not need to care too much then but can change
it if they like...

> > Please let me know if I can provide more testing - and what kind of :)

Okay, did some more...

I played with the hardware killswitch under Linux. The bluetooth device
disappears and re-appears there and always seems to initialize
correctly. No USB read errors this way.

I also played with the soft killswitch under Windows. The bluetooth
device disappears from device manager and re-appears on unblock
(together with the Windows device plug sounds). This looks to me like
the ACPI killswitch is used for it.
No initialization-problems here, the device always comes back fully
operational. So, Windows doesn't seem to suffer from a bad
initialization.

I'm not exactly sure what this means - especially because I don't know
how the hardware killswitch works internally.
It *could* mean, the initialization problem is proably something that
could be dealt with in the USB layer long term (and would then probably
not have to be worked around anymore in ideapad_laptop). I'm not sure
about this, because this would mean the hard killswitch power-cut
somehow differs from the soft killswitch power-cut.


Mario
-- 
As a rule, the more bizarre a thing is, the less mysterious it proves to be.
                                    -- Sherlock Holmes by Arthur Conan Doyle

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