linux-kernel - Re: [RFC][PATCH] Per file dirty limit throttling

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Message-Id: <201008231749.19836.knikanth@suse.de>
Date:	Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:49:19 +0530
From:	Nikanth Karthikesan <knikanth@...e.de>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Bill Davidsen <davidsen@....com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Per file dirty limit throttling

On Wednesday 18 August 2010 15:28:56 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 14:52 +0530, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 August 2010 13:54:35 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 10:39 +0530, Nikanth Karthikesan wrote:
> > > > Oh, nice.  Per-task limit is an elegant solution, which should help
> > > > during most of the common cases.
> > > >
> > > > But I just wonder what happens, when
> > > > 1. The dirtier is multiple co-operating processes
> > > > 2. Some app like a shell script, that repeatedly calls dd with seek
> > > > and skip? People do this for data deduplication, sparse skipping
> > > > etc.. 3. The app dies and comes back again. Like a VM that is
> > > > rebooted, and continues writing to a disk backed by a file on the
> > > > host.
> > > >
> > > > Do you think, in those cases this might still be useful?
> > >
> > > Those cases do indeed defeat the current per-task-limit, however I
> > > think the solution to that is to limit the amount of writeback done by
> > > each blocked process.
> >
> > Blocked on what? Sorry, I do not understand.
> 
> balance_dirty_pages(), by limiting the work done there (or actually, the
> amount of page writeback completions you wait for -- starting IO isn't
> that expensive), you can also affect the time it takes, and therefore
> influence the impact.
> 

But this has nothing special to do with the cases like multi-threaded dirtier, 
which is why I was confused. :)

Thanks
Nikanth
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