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Message-ID: <20100823130127.GP19797@csn.ul.ie>
Date:	Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:01:27 +0100
From:	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>
To:	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu
	allocator V2

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 07:45:25AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> 
> > Internal IBM test teams beta testing distribution kernels have reported
> > problems on machines with a large number of CPUs whereby page allocator
> > failure messages show huge differences between the nr_free_pages vmstat
> > counter and what is available on the buddy lists. In an extreme example,
> > nr_free_pages was above the min watermark but zero pages were on the buddy
> > lists allowing the system to potentially livelock unable to make forward
> > progress unless an allocation succeeds. There is no reason why the problems
> > would not affect mainline so the following series mitigates the problems
> > in the page allocator related to to per-cpu counter drift and lists.
> 
> The maximum time for which the livelock can exists is the vm stat
> interval. By default the counters are brought up to date at least once per
> second or if a certain delta was violated. Drifts are controlled by the
> delta configuration.
> 

While there is a maximum time (2 seconds I think) the drift can exist
in, a machine under enough pressure can make a mess of the watermarks
during that time. If it wasn't the case, these livelocks with 0 pages
free wouldn't be happening.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab
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