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Message-Id: <20100826100355.05fcfd87.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Date:	Thu, 26 Aug 2010 10:03:55 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Cc:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2][BUGFIX] oom: remove totalpage normalization from
 oom_badness()

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 17:52:06 -0700 (PDT)
David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> 
> > I'm now trying to write a userspace tool to calculate this, for me.
> > Then, could you update documentation ? 
> > ==
> > 3.2 /proc/<pid>/oom_score - Display current oom-killer score
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > This file can be used to check the current score used by the oom-killer is for
> > any given <pid>. Use it together with /proc/<pid>/oom_adj to tune which
> > process should be killed in an out-of-memory situation.
> > ==
> > 
> 
> You'll want to look at section 3.1 of Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt, 
> which describes /proc/pid/oom_score_adj, not 3.2.
> 
> > add a some documentation like:
> > ==
> > (For system monitoring tool developpers, not for usual users.)
> > oom_score calculation is implemnentation dependent and can be modified without
> > any caution. But current logic is
> > 
> > oom_score = ((proc's rss + proc's swap) / (available ram + swap)) + oom_score_adj
> > 
> 
> I'd hesitate to state the formula outside of the implementation and 
> instead focus on the semantics of oom_score_adj (as a proportion of 
> available memory compared to other tasks), which I tried doing in section 
> 3.1.  Then, the userspace tool only need be concerned about the units of 
> oom_score_adj rather than whether rss, swap, or later extentions such as 
> shm are added.
> 
> Thanks for working on this, Kame!
> 
BTW, why you don't subtract the amount of Hugepages ?

The old code did
	"totalrampages - hugepage" as available memory.

IIUC, the number of hugepages is not accounted into mm->rss, so, isn't it
better to subtract # of hugepage ?
Hmm...makes no difference ?

Thanks,
-Kame






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