linux-kernel - Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: add U: for URL of todo list, add RCU todo list

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Message-ID: <20100830114031.69889a6f@notabene>
Date:	Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:40:31 +1000
From:	Neil Brown <neilb@...e.de>
To:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	Sarah Sharp <sarah.a.sharp@...ux.intel.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	ksummit-2010-discuss@...ts.linux-foundation.org, mingo@...e.hu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: add U: for URL of
 todo list, add RCU todo list

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:23:23 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:00:21PM -0700, Sarah Sharp wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:50:44AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:25:33AM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 09:14 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:51:44AM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 08:45 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > > > Since T: and L: are already taken, add U: for URL of todo list.
> > > > > > > Also add the RCU todo list to both the RCU and RCUTORTURE projects.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think W: already works perfectly well for this use.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >From MAINTAINERS:
> > > > > >         W: Web-page with status/info
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > @@ -4801,6 +4802,7 @@ M:	Josh Triplett <josh@...edesktop.org>
> > > > > > >  M:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >  S:	Supported
> > > > > > >  T:	git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/linux-2.6-rcu.git
> > > > > > > +U:	http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/paulmck/rcutodo.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > W:	http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/paulmck/rcutodo.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  F:	Documentation/RCU/torture.txt
> > > > > > >  F:	kernel/rcutorture.c
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > @@ -4826,6 +4828,7 @@ M:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > > > > >  W:	http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/rclock/
> > > > > > >  S:	Supported
> > > > > > >  T:	git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/linux-2.6-rcu.git
> > > > > > > +U:	http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/paulmck/rcutodo.html
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > W:	http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/paulmck/rcutodo.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > OK, how about the following, then?
> > > > 
> > > > Got to say I really think overloading W which means web page/status
> > > > information isn't a very good idea:
> > > > 
> > > > jejb@...grave:~/git/linux-2.6> grep -w 'W:' MAINTAINERS |wc -l
> > > > 371
> > > > 
> > > > We already have ~400 of them ... how's anyone looking for a todo list
> > > > going to find the right one in amongst all the others (assuming a newbie
> > > > with no subject predisposition simply trying to find any todo list).
> > > 
> > > Hopefully the todo lists have "todo" or "TODO" in the URL.  ;-)
> > 
> > That may not be the case if you use a public todo list on
> > rememberthemilk.com.  It doesn't make sense to end multiple todo list
> > names with "todo" for on site that's specifically designed to help with
> > todo lists.
> > 
> > I like the idea of a separate letter for todo lists URLs.
> 
> So do I!  ;-)
> 
> Another option for URLs not containing "todo" or "TODO" is something like:
> 
> W:	rememberthemilk.com (todo)
> 
> I suspect that most people would know not to include " (todo)" in
> the string they fed to their browser.
> 
> Seem reasonable?

Yes as long as it is easy to machine-parse.

The idea that appeals to me is for the 'todo list' URL to be an RSS feed, and
we have some site that automagically extracts all the todo lists and creates
a todo planet.  (todo.kernelplanet.org ??)
Then interested parties could subscribe to that and watch the ideas go by.

But getting a useful subset of maintainers to put a todo list in an RSS feed
feels somewhat like herding wild-cats...

NeilBrown
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