linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] vmscan: prevent background aging of anon page in no swap system

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Message-ID: <AANLkTinqm0o=AfmgFy+SpZ1mrdekRnjeXvs_7=OcLii8@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sun, 29 Aug 2010 22:40:47 -0700
From:	Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Cc:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: prevent background aging of anon page in no swap system

On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com> wrote:
> Hi Ying,
>
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Ying Han <yinghan@...gle.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/29/2010 01:45 PM, Ying Han wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are few other places in vmscan where we check nr_swap_pages and
>>>> inactive_anon_is_low. Are we planning to change them to use
>>>> total_swap_pages
>>>> to be consistent ?
>>>
>>> If that makes sense, maybe the check can just be moved into
>>> inactive_anon_is_low itself?
>>
>> That was the initial patch posted, instead we changed to use
>> total_swap_pages instead. How this patch looks:
>>
>> @@ -1605,6 +1605,9 @@ static int inactive_anon_is_low(struct zone
>> *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
>>  {
>>        int low;
>>
>> +       if (total_swap_pages <= 0)
>> +               return 0;
>> +
>>        if (scanning_global_lru(sc))
>>                low = inactive_anon_is_low_global(zone);
>>        else
>> @@ -1856,7 +1859,7 @@ static void shrink_zone(int priority, struct zone *zone,
>>         * Even if we did not try to evict anon pages at all, we want to
>>         * rebalance the anon lru active/inactive ratio.
>>         */
>> -       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc) && nr_swap_pages > 0)
>> +       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc))
>>                shrink_active_list(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, zone, sc, priority, 0);
>>
>>        throttle_vm_writeout(sc->gfp_mask);
>>
>> --Ying
>>
>>>
>
> I did it intentionally since inactive_anon_is_low have been used both
> direct reclaim and background path. In this point, your patch could
> make side effect in swap enabled system when swap is full.
>
> I think we need aging in only background if system is swap full.
> That's because if the swap space is full, we don't reclaim anon pages
> in direct reclaim path with (nr_swap_pages < 0)  and even have been
> not rebalance it until now.
> I think direct reclaim path is important about latency as well as
> reclaim's effectiveness.
> So if you don't mind, I hope direct reclaim patch would be left just as it is.

Minchan, I would prefer to make kswapd as well as direct reclaim to be
consistent if possible.
They both try to reclaim pages when system is under memory pressure,
and also do not make
much sense to look at anon lru if no swap space available. Either
because of no swapon or run
out of swap space.

I think letting kswapd to age anon lru without free swap space is not
necessary neither. That leads
to my initial patch:

@@ -1605,6 +1605,9 @@ static int inactive_anon_is_low(struct zone
*zone, struct scan_control *sc)
 {
       int low;

+       if (nr_swap_pages <= 0)
+               return 0;
+
       if (scanning_global_lru(sc))
               low = inactive_anon_is_low_global(zone);
       else
@@ -1856,7 +1859,7 @@ static void shrink_zone(int priority, struct zone *zone,
        * Even if we did not try to evict anon pages at all, we want to
        * rebalance the anon lru active/inactive ratio.
        */
-       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc) && nr_swap_pages > 0)
+       if (inactive_anon_is_low(zone, sc))
               shrink_active_list(SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX, zone, sc, priority, 0);

What do you think ?

--Ying
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Minchan Kim
>
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