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Date:	Thu, 2 Sep 2010 20:19:45 +0900
From:	Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@...il.com>
To:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
Cc:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@...ux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make is_mem_section_removable more conformable with
 offlining code

2010/9/2 Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>:
> On Thu 02-09-10 18:03:43, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 10:28:29 +0200
>> Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu 02-09-10 14:45:00, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:41:38 +0200
>> > [...]
>> > > > From de85f1aa42115678d3340f0448cd798577036496 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
>> > > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
>> > > > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 15:39:16 +0200
>> > > > Subject: [PATCH] Make is_mem_section_removable more conformable with offlining code
>> > > >
>> > > > Currently is_mem_section_removable checks whether each pageblock from
>> > > > the given pfn range is of MIGRATE_MOVABLE type or if it is free. If both
>> > > > are false then the range is considered non removable.
>> > > >
>> > > > On the other hand, offlining code (more specifically
>> > > > set_migratetype_isolate) doesn't care whether a page is free and instead
>> > > > it just checks the migrate type of the page and whether the page's zone
>> > > > is movable.
>> > > >
>> > > > This can lead into a situation when we can mark a node as not removable
>> > > > just because a pageblock is MIGRATE_RESERVE and it is not free.
>> > > >
>> > > > Let's make a common helper is_page_removable which unifies both tests
>> > > > at one place. Also let's check for MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE rather than all
>> > > > possible MIGRATEable types.
>> > > >
>> > > > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
>> > >
>> > > Hmm..Why MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE is included ?
>> >
>> > AFAIU the code, MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE are movable as well (at least that
>> > is how I interpret #define GFP_MOVABLE_MASK (__GFP_RECLAIMABLE|__GFP_MOVABLE)).
>> > Why should we prevent from memory offlining if we have some reclaimable
>> > pages? Or am I totally misinterpreting the meaning of this flag?
>> >
>>
>> RECLAIMABLE cannot be 100% reclaimable.
>
> OK, I see. The name is little bit misleading then. Should we comment
> that?
>
>> Then, for memory hotlug,
>> I intentionally skips it and check free_area[] and LRU.
>>
>>
>> > >
>> > > If MIGRATE_RCLAIMABLE is included, set_migrate_type() should check the
>> > > range of pages. Because it makes the pageblock as MIGRAGE_MOVABLE after
>> > > failure of memory hotplug.
>> > >
>> > > Original code checks.
>> > >
>> > >  - the range is MIGRAGE_MOVABLE or
>> > >  - the range includes only free pages and LRU pages.
>> > >
>> > > Then, moving them back to MIGRAGE_MOVABLE after failure was correct.
>> > > Doesn't this makes changes MIGRATE_RECALIMABLE to be MIGRATE_MOVABLE and
>> > > leads us to more fragmentated situation ?
>> >
>> > Just to be sure that I understand you concern. We are talking about hot
>> > remove failure which can lead to higher fragmentation, right?
>> >
>> right.
>>
>> > By the higher fragmentation you mean that all movable pageblocks (even
>> > reclaimable) gets to MIGRATE_MOVABLE until we get first failure. In the
>> > worst case, if we fail near the end of the zone then there is imbalance
>> > in MIGRATE_MOVABLE vs. MIGRATE_RECALIMABLE. Is that what you are
>> > thinking of? Doesn't this just gets the zone to the state after
>> > onlining? Or is the problem if we fail somewhere in the middle?
>> >
>>
>> No. My concern is pageblock type changes before/after memory hotplug failure.
>>       before isolation: MIGRATE_RECLAIMABLE
>>       after isolation failure : MIGRATE_MOVABLE
>
> Ahh, OK I can see your point now. unset_migratetype_isolate called on
> the failure path sets migrate type unconditionally as it cannot know
> what was the original migration type.
>
Right.

> What about MIGRATE_RESERVE? Is there anything that can make those
> allocations fail offlining?
>
MIGRATE_RESERVE can contain several typs of pages, mixture of movable/unmovable
pages.

IIRC, my 1st version of code of set_migratetype_isolate() just checks
zone_idx and
I think checking MIGRATE_TYPE is my mistake.
(As Mel explained, it can be a mixture of several types.)

So, how about using the latter half of set_migratetype_isolate()'s check ?
It checks that the given range just includes free pages and LRU pages.
It's 100% accurate and more trustable than migrate_type check.

Whatever migratetype the pageblock has, if the block only contains free pages
and lru pages, changing the type as MOVABLE (at failure) is not very bad.

(Or, checking contents of pageblock in failure path and set proper
MIGRATE type.)

Anyway, not very difficult. Just a bit larger patch than you have.

Thanks,
-Kame
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