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Message-Id: <201009022209.20354.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:09:20 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	markgross@...gnar.org
Cc:	Kevin Hilman <khilman@...prootsystems.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <skannan@...eaurora.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pm_qos: Add system bus performance parameter

On Thursday, September 02, 2010, mark gross wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 07:31:46AM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> > Saravana Kannan <skannan@...eaurora.org> writes:
> > 
> > > Some drivers/devices might need some minimum system bus performance to
> > > provide acceptable service. Provide a PM QoS parameter to send these requests
> > > to.
> > >
> > > The new parameter is named "system bus performance" since it is generic enough
> > > for the unit of the request to be frequency, bandwidth or something else that
> > > might be appropriate. It's up to each implementation of the QoS provider to
> > > define what the unit of the request would be.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <skannan@...eaurora.org>
> > 
> > With this current design, only one system-wide bus would be managed.
> > What if a platform has more than one independently scalable bus?
> > 
> > I think the only scalable way to handle this kind of thing is to have
> > per-device QoS constraints that can then be combined/aggregated by parent
> > devices/busses.
> > 
> > At LPC this year, I've proposed per-device QoS constraints[1] as a topic
> > for the PM mini-conf.  I hope some folks from the MSM camp can be there
> > for these discussions.
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > [1] http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2010/ocw/proposals/819
> 
> I thought a pm_qos like thing per bus would be a patch or you where
> going to put up to the driver model. ;)
> 
> The current pm_qos would stick around for higher level pm_qos things.
> So making the system bus and changing to a summation aggregation would
> be  temporary thing.  
> 
> Or are you you saying we shouldn't put system_bus into pm_qos at all and
> instead we should put effort into adding it to the driver model for
> buses?

Hmm, well, what's system_bus?

Rafael
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