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Message-ID: <1283498777.1783.45.camel@laptop>
Date:	Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:26:17 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Mark Wielaard <mjw@...hat.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Naren A Devaiah <naren.devaiah@...ibm.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv11 2.6.36-rc2-tip 3/15]  3: uprobes: Slot allocation
 for Execution out of line(XOL)

On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 23:17 +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > > Current slot allocation mechanism:
> > > 1. Allocate one dedicated slot per user breakpoint. Each slot is big
> > > enuf to accomodate the biggest instruction for that architecture. (16
> > > bytes for x86).
> > > 2. We currently allocate only one page for slots. Hence the number of
> > > slots is limited to active breakpoint hits on that process.
> > > 3. Bitmap to track used slots. 
> > 
> > An alternative method would be to have 1 slot per cpu, and manage the
> > slot content using preemption notifiers. That gives you a fixed number
> > of slots and an unlimited number of probe points.
> > 
> > If the preemption happens to be a migration you need to rewrite the
> > userspace IP to point to the new slot -- if indeed the task was inside
> > one when it got preempted -- but that all should be doable.
> > 
> 
> Certainly doable but it has its share of drawbacks.
> 1. On every probe hit we have to copy the instruction into the
> slot, so there is a performance penalty. 

Yeah, although I imagine its nearly free since you need to pay the
cache-miss anyway.

> 2  This might complicate booster probe, because the jump
> instruction that follows the original instruction now actually have to
> coded every time.

Why can't you keep the whole replacement sequence in-tact? Simply copy
it out into the slot each time.

> 3. Yes migration is an issue esp
> -  if a thread of the same process that hit a breakpoint is scheduled into the same cpu and that newly scheduled thread hits a breakpoint. 
> - Something similar can happen if a multithreaded process runs on a
>   uniprocessor machine.

-ENOPARSE ?!

> 4. I dont see a need for clearing slots after post processing, but if
> we need to clear we then are adding more penalties because not only are
> we clearing the slots but the post processing then cant happen in
> interrupt context.

post-processing? you mean the probe handler? Why couldn't that be done
from interrupt context?

> 5. I think we are covered on the cpu hotplug too, (i.e not sure if we have
> to make uprobes cpu hot plug aware.).

Not if you use a slot per cpu and use preemption notifiers, the
preemption notifiers will migrate the slots around.

> 6. We would still be allocating a page for the slots. Unless we want
> to expand to more slots than available in one page, I dont see the
> disadvantages with the current approach.

The current approach limits the number of probes to what fits in a page.
The slot per cpu approach will have no such limit.
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