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Date:	Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:33:13 +1000
From:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
To:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after
 direct reclaim allocation fails

On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:45:54PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> [restoring CC list]
> 
> On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:14:47PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 02:05:39PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 10:15:55AM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 09:54:00AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > > > Dave, could you post (publicly) the kconfig and /proc/vmstat?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd like to check if you have swap or memory compaction enabled..
> > > > 
> > > > Swap is enabled - it has 512MB of swap space:
> > > > 
> > > > $ free
> > > >              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> > > > Mem:       4054304     100928    3953376          0       4096      43108
> > > > -/+ buffers/cache:      53724    4000580
> > > > Swap:       497976          0     497976
> > > 
> > > It looks swap is not used at all.
> > 
> > It isn't 30s after boot, abut I haven't checked after a livelock.
> 
> That's fine. I see in your fs_mark-wedge-1.png that there are no
> read/write IO at all when CPUs are 100% busy. So there should be no
> swap IO at "livelock" time.
> 
> > > > And memory compaction is not enabled:
> > > > 
> > > > $ grep COMPACT .config
> > > > # CONFIG_COMPACTION is not set
> 
> Memory compaction is not likely the cause too. It will only kick in for
> order > 3 allocations.
> 
> > > > 
> > > > The .config is pretty much a 'make defconfig' and then enabling XFS and
> > > > whatever debug I need (e.g. locking, memleak, etc).
> > > 
> > > Thanks! The problem seems hard to debug -- you cannot login at all
> > > when it is doing lock contentions, so cannot get sysrq call traces.
> > 
> > Well, I don't know whether it is lock contention at all. The sets of
> > traces I have got previously have shown backtraces on all CPUs in
> > direct reclaim with several in draining queues, but no apparent lock
> > contention.
> 
> That's interesting. Do you still have the full backtraces?
> 
> Maybe your system eats too much slab cache (icache/dcache) by creating
> so many zero-sized files. The system may run into problems reclaiming
> so many (dirty) slab pages.

Yes, that's where most of the memory pressure is coming from.
However, it's not stuck reclaiming slab - it's pretty clear from
another chart that I run that the slab cache contents is not
changing aross the livelock. IOWs, it appears to get stuck before it
gets to shrink_slab().

Worth noting, though, is that XFS metadata workloads do create page
cache pressure as well - all the metadata pages are cached on a
separate address space, so perhaps it is getting stuck there...

> > > How about enabling CONFIG_LOCK_STAT? Then you can check
> > > /proc/lock_stat when the contentions are over.
> > 
> > Enabling the locking debug/stats gathering slows the workload
> > by a factor of 3 and doesn't produce the livelock....
> 
> Oh sorry.. but it would still be interesting to check the top
> contended locks for this workload without any livelocks :)

I'll see what i can do.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@...morbit.com
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