linux-kernel - Re: RFC: Crypto API User-interface

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Date:	Tue, 7 Sep 2010 22:11:12 +0800
From:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:	Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Crypto API User-interface

On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 10:06:46AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 04:42:13PM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > Hi:
> > 
> > This is what I am proposing for the Crypto API user-interface.
> 
> Can you explain why we would ever want a userspace interface to it?
> 
> doing crypto in kernel for userspace consumers sis simply insane.
> It's computational intensive code which has no business in kernel space
> unless absolutely required (e.g. for kernel consumers).  In addition
> to that adding the context switch overhead and address space transitions
> is god awfull too.
> 
> This all very much sounds like someone had far too much crack.

FWIW I don't care about user-space using kernel software crypto at
all.  It's the security people that do.

The purpose of the user-space API is to export the hardware crypto
devices to user-space.  This means PCI devices mostly, as things
like aesni-intel can already be used without kernel help.

Now as a side-effect if this means that we can shut the security
people up about adding another interface then all the better.  But
I will certainly not go out of the way to add more crap to the
kernel for that purpose.

Cheers,
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