linux-kernel - Re: [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with nr

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Date:	Mon, 13 Sep 2010 06:13:03 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 1/2] sched: dynamically adapt granularity with
 nr_running

On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 14:16 -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Mike Galbraith (efault@....de) wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 08:14 +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > (on a uniprocessor 2.0 GHz Pentium M)
> > > > 
> > > > * Without the patch:
> > > > 
> > > >  - wakeup-latency with SIGEV_THREAD in parallel with youtube video and
> > > >    make -j10
> > > > 
> > > > maximum latency: 50107.8 µs
> > > > average latency: 6609.2 µs
> > > > missed timer events: 0
> > > 
> > > I tried your patches on a similar UP system, using wakeup-latency.c. I 
> > > also measured the vanilla upstream kernel (cced86a) with the default 
> > > granularity settings, and also vanilla with a sched_min_granularity/3 
> > > tune (patch attached below for that).
> > > 
> > > I got the following results (make -j10 kbuild load, average of 3 runs):
> > > 
> > >  vanilla: 
> > > 
> > >   maximum latency: 38278.9 µs
> > >   average latency:  7730.1 µs
> > > 
> > >  mathieu-dyn:
> > > 
> > >   maximum latency: 28698.8 µs
> > >   average latency:  7757.1 µs
> > > 
> > >  peterz-min_gran/3:
> > > 
> > >   maximum latency: 22702.1 µs
> > >   average latency:  6684.8 µs
> > 
> > One thing that springs to mind with make is that it does vfork, so kinda
> > sorta continues running in drag, so shouldn't get credit for sleeping,
> > as that introduces bogus spread.  Post vfork parent notification time
> > adjustment may suffice, think I'll try that.
> 
> Hrm, I might be misunderstanding what you are saying here, but when a new
> process/thread is forked and woken up, we fall in the "initial" case of
> place_entity, so we increase the vruntime of a whole slice rather than getting
> credit for sleeping.
> 
> Or am I missing your point ?

Yes and no.  I'm pondering the parent, but by the same token, the vfork
child shouldn't be penalized either.

Does your latency go down drastically if you turn START_DEBIT off?
Seems like it should.  Perhaps START_DEBIT should not start a task
further right than rightmost.  I've done that before.

maximum latency: 19221.5 µs
average latency: 5159.0 µs
missed timer events: 0

maximum latency: 43901.0 µs
average latency: 8430.1 µs
missed timer events: 0

Turning it off here cut latency roughly in half (i've piddled vfork
though, but not completely).  Limiting child placement to no further
right than rightmost should help quite a bit.

	-Mike

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