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Date:	Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:39:27 +0200
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Shirley Ma <mashirle@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	"Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@...el.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] macvtap: TX zero copy between guest and host
 kernel

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 05:04:12PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 07:52:34AM -0700, Shirley Ma wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 12:10 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > Another issue is that macvtap can be bound to almost
> > > anything, including e.g. a tap device or a bridge,
> > > which might hang on to skb fragments for unlimited time.
> > > Zero copy TX won't easily work there.
> > > I can imagine either somehow triggering a data copy after the
> > > fact (hard), or detecting such devices and avoiding
> > > zero copy (unfortunate for guest to guest, and drivers
> > > will need tuning).
> > 
> > So far macvtap zero copy patch is limited to lower devices supports high
> > memory DMA, it doesn't apply to a tap device or a bridge.
> 
> Okay. What about macvtap in bridge mode?

In fact, I rechecked: both bridge and loopback have NETIF_F_HIGHDMA set.
So maybe we should check NETIF_F_NETNS_LOCAL ...

macvtap in bridged mode is interesting as well.

> > > >  Don't you think once I address vhost_add_used_and_signal update
> > > > issue, it is a simple and complete patch for macvtap TX zero copy?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Shirley
> > > 
> > > I like the fact that the patch is simple. Unfortunately
> > > I suspect it'll stop being simple by the time it's complete :) 
> > 
> > I can make a try. :)
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Shirley
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