Date:	Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:46:48 +0530
From:	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@...ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	John stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/10] taskstats: Enhancements for precise accounting

* Michael Holzheu <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> [2010-09-23 15:48:01]:

> Currently tools like "top" gather the task information by reading procfs
> files. This has several disadvantages:
> 
> * It is very CPU intensive, because a lot of system calls (readdir, open,
>   read, close) are necessary.
> * No real task snapshot can be provided, because while the procfs files are
>   read the system continues running.
> * The procfs times granularity is restricted to jiffies.
> 
> In parallel to procfs there exists the taskstats binary interface that uses
> netlink sockets as transport mechanism to deliver task information to
> user space. There exists a taskstats command "TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PID"
> to get task information for a given PID. This command can already be used for
> tools like top, but has also several disadvantages:
> 
> * You first have to find out which PIDs are available in the system. Currently
>   we have to use procfs again to do this.
> * For each task two system calls have to be issued (First send the command and
>   then receive the reply).
> * No snapshot mechanism is available.
> 
> GOALS OF THIS PATCH SET
> -----------------------
> The intention of this patch set is to provide better support for tools like
> top. The goal is to:
> 
> * provide a task snapshot mechanism where we can get a consistent view of
>   all running tasks.
> * provide a transport mechanism that does not require a lot of system calls
>   and that allows implementing low CPU overhead task monitoring.
> * provide microsecond CPU time granularity.
>


Looks like a good set of goals
 
> FIRST RESULTS
> -------------
> Together with this kernel patch set also user space code for a new top
> utility (ptop) is provided that exploits the new kernel infrastructure. See
> patch 10 for more details.
> 
> TEST1: System with many sleeping tasks
> 
>   for ((i=0; i < 1000; i++))
>   do
>          sleep 1000000 &
>   done
> 
>   # ptop_new_proc
> 
>              VVVV
>   pid   user  sys  ste  total  Name
>   (#)    (%)  (%)  (%)    (%)  (str)
>   541   0.37 2.39 0.10   2.87  top
>   3743  0.03 0.05 0.00   0.07  ptop_new_proc
>              ^^^^
> 
> Compared to the old top command that has to scan more than 1000 proc
> directories the new ptop consumes much less CPU time (0.05% system time
> on my s390 system).a

This is very nice!

> 
> TEST2: Show snapshot consistency with system that is 100% busy
> 
>   System with 3 CPUs:
> 
>   for ((i=0; i < $(cat /proc/cpuinfo  | grep "^processor" | wc -l); i++))
>   do
>        ./loop &
>   done
> 
>   # ptop_snap_proc
> 
>           VVVV  VVV  VVV                        VVVVV
>   pid     user  sys  ste cuser csys cste delay  total Elap+ Name
>   (#)      (%)  (%)  (%)   (%)  (%)  (%)   (%)    (%)  (hm) (str)
>   23891  99.84 0.06 0.09  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.01  99.99  0:00 loop
>   23881  99.66 0.06 0.09  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.20  99.81  0:00 loop
>   23886  99.65 0.06 0.09  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.20  99.80  0:00 loop
>   2413    0.00 0.00 0.00  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.00   0.01  4:17 sshd
>   ...
>   V:V:S 299.36 0.36 0.27  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.40 300.00  4:22
>                                                ^^^^^^
> 
>   With the snapshot mechanism the sum of all tasks CPU times (user + system +
>   steal) will be exactly 300.00% CPU time with this testcase. Using
>   ptop_snap_proc (see patch 10) this works fine on s390.
> 
> PATCHSET OVERVIEW
> -----------------
> The code is not final and still has a few TODOs. But it is good enough for a
> first round of review. The following kernel patches are provided:
> 
> [01] Prepare-0: Use real microsecond granularity for taskstats CPU times.
> [02] Prepare-1: Restructure taskstats.c in order to be able to add new commands
>      more easily.
> [03] Prepare-2: Separate the finding of a task_struct by PID or TGID from
>      filling the taskstats.
> [04] Add new command "TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PIDS" to get a snapshot of multiple
>      tasks.
> [05] Add procfs interface for taskstats commands. This allows to get a complete
>      and consistent snapshot with all tasks using two system calls (ioctl and
>      read). Transferring a snapshot of all running tasks is not possible using
>      the existing netlink interface, because there we have the socket buffer
>      size as restricting factor.
> [06] Add TGID to taskstats.
> [07] Add steal time per task accounting.
> [08] Add cumulative CPU time (user, system and steal) to taskstats.
> [09] Fix exit CPU time accounting.

I'll review the patches, in more depth

> 
> [10] Besides of the kernel patches also user space code is provided that
>      exploits the new kernel infrastructure. The user space code provides the
>      following:
>      1. A proposal for a taskstats user space library:
>         1.1 Based on netlink (requires libnl-devel-1.1-5)
>         2.1 Based on the new /proc/taskstats interface (see [05])

I have some code for libnl based exploitation lying around, not sure
if you've seen the same.

>      2. A proposal for a task snapshot library based on taskstats library (1.1)
>      3. A new tool "ptop" (precise top) that uses the libraries
> 
> 

-- 
	Three Cheers,
	Balbir
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