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Message-ID: <20100927215135.3d11d587@schatten.dmk.lab>
Date:	Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:51:35 +0200
From:	Florian Mickler <florian@...kler.org>
To:	tmhikaru@...il.com
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.6.35.6

On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:32:08 -0400
tmhikaru@...il.com wrote:

> 	I'm not exactly sure what's going on here and I'd like some help
> figuring out what is. For some inexplicable reason, ever since I started
> using the 2.6.35.x series with the 2.6.35.3 release, my loadaverages tend to
> bounce anywhere from as low to .2 to 1.5 - constantly, while the machine
> seems idle. Consistently, there are no programs in D state in ps aux output,
> no cpu hogging programs running in top, nothing I can see that should
> explain the bizzarely high load average. *Something* is wrong beyond the
> mere loadaverage numbers going crazy however, since timed runs of kernel
> compiles done with my distro's kernel and 2.6.35.5 show that while there is
> no *apparent* use of cpu or disk showing in vmstat while the machine is
> idle, the compiles on the newer kernel are taking approximately twice as
> long as before. Now, while I could try to figure out what patch started the
> problem, I think it would be a better idea for me to make sure I'm looking
> for the actual problem in the right place. Therefore, I know that cpu use,
> disk I/O, and the kernel can drive the load average up. Of these things, cpu
> use and disk I/O are trackable in top/ps output (eg, a process in D state is
> waiting on the disk to do something and can't sleep.) but I don't know if
> there's any easy way to determine if the kernel itself is doing something
> that's driving up the load average. It's perplexing me that I can see the
> loadaverage constantly bouncing about but can't seem to find any reason why
> it is doing so.

I can't comment on the bouncing part, but increased load average is
partly bisected down in Bug 16525 (unexpected high load since 2.6.35
Bug 16525)[1]. Maybe you are seeing something similiar? 

> 
> 	If you have any tips or recommendations on what I should use to
> investigate this further, please let me know. Once I have ensured to my own
> satisfaction that I'm not doing something bizzare that's screwing up my
> machine, I'll make a detailed bug report and start on figuring out how to
> use git bisect.
> 
> 	Tim McGrath
> 
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