linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] bdi: use deferable timer for sync

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Message-ID: <20101008144236.GA27331@localhost>
Date:	Fri, 8 Oct 2010 22:42:36 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	Yong Wang <yong.y.wang@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Artem Bityutskiy <Artem.Bityutskiy@...ia.com>,
	"Wu, Xia" <xia.wu@...el.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Jens Axboe <jaxboe@...ionio.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bdi: use deferable timer for sync_supers task

On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 09:57:04PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 06:27:09PM +0800, Yong Wang wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 08, 2010 at 01:28:07PM +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 18:27 +0800, Wu, Xia wrote:
> > > > > However, when the next wake-up interrupt happens is not defined. It can
> > > > > happen 1ms after, or 1 minute after, or 1 hour after. What Christoph
> > > > > says is that there should be some guarantee that sb writeout starts,
> > > > > say, within 5 to 10 seconds interval. Deferrable timers do not guarantee
> > > > > this. But take a look at the range hrtimers - they do exactly this.
> > > > 
> > > > If the system is in sleep state, is there any data which should be written?
> > > 
> > > May be yes, may be no.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the quick response, Artem. May I know what might need to be
> > written out when system is really idle?
> 
> system idle != no dirty inodes

Ah sorry -- I missed the context. Please ignore the following
paragraphs for sync_supers..

Thanks,
Fengguang

> Imagine an application dirties 100MB data and quits. The system then
> goes quiet for very long time. In this case we still want the flusher
> thread to wake up within 30 seconds to flush the 100MB dirty data.
> It's a contract that dirty data will be synced to disk after 30s
> (which is the default value of /proc/sys/vm/dirty_expire_centisecs).
> 
> Note that 30s is not an exact value. A dirty page may be synced to
> disk when it's been dirtied for 35s. The 5s error comes from the
> flusher wakeup interval (/proc/sys/vm/dirty_writeback_centisecs).
> 
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
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