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Message-Id: <201010221504.51535.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:04:51 +1030
From: Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2][GIT PULL] tracing: Prevent unloadable modules from using trace_bprintk()
On Fri, 22 Oct 2010 02:28:38 pm Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 14:13 +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > I think disabling use in modules is lazy,
> > >
> > > and safer.
> >
> > Well then just delete trace_bprintk altogether. Even safer!
>
> Reminds me of the argument against lowering the speed limit to 55. "it's
> safer"... "Then lower it to zero, even safer!"
>
>
> >
> > > > Can't you detect this on module unload and fix it up? Or delay freeing the
> > > > module until the trace ring is emptied?
> > >
> > > One possibility is to magically make all string formats used in
> > > trace_printk into its own section, and keep it allocated until the ring
> > > buffer is empty. Or, we can just do that with the module's entire string
> > > section, since we know whether or not that module has a trace_printk in
> > > it or not.
> >
> > Exactly. Set a flag in the module if it resolves trace_printk, and defer freeing
> > the module in that case. This shouldn't be that hard...
>
> Here's my worry.
>
> 1) Some module with tracepoints is loaded at boot up.
> 2) The user does tracing and forgets about it (ring buffer filled)
> 3) Unloads module (don't free)
> 4) loads module with trace points
> 5) unloads module (don't free)
> etc, etc
>
> memory leak.
Sure. Then mark the rb count or something in the module at init time,
then compare before deciding too dangerous to free.
> Thus this is not that trivial. We probably need to have a way to lock a
> module when its tracepoint is activated, and only unlock it when the
> ring buffer is emptied.
How about the intuitive and completely obvious thing? When a tp activated,
use the module. When deactivated, unuse it?
> Do we want to prevent the module from being unloaded while the ring
> buffer is full (after that module has been traced?), or do we let the
> module be unloaded, but just prevent this one section from being freed?
I was thinking the latter, basically defer the module_free() call.
Cheers,
Rusty.
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