linux-kernel - Re: perf tools miscellaneous questions

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Message-ID: <m2pqulschy.fsf@gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 04 Nov 2010 09:45:45 +0100
From:	Francis Moreau <francis.moro@...il.com>
To:	Reid Kleckner <reid.kleckner@...il.com>
Cc:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	linux-perf-users@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: perf tools miscellaneous questions

Francis Moreau <francis.moro@...il.com> writes:

> Reid Kleckner <reid.kleckner@...il.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote:
>>>> What's exactly the 'cache-misses' event ? does it include both instructions
>>>> _and_ data cache misses ? both L1 and L2 caches ?
>>>>
>>
>>>> I was expecting so but the following command makes me wondering:
>>>>
>>>>   $ perf stat -e cache-misses:u,l1d-loads-misses:u true
>>>>     Performance counter stats for 'true':
>>>>
>>>>                 763  cache-misses
>>>>                 874  L1-dcache-load-misses
>>>>
>>>>         0.000916609  seconds time elapsed
>>>>
>>>> Here cache-misses < L1-dcache-load-misses.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dunno, will let others answer.
>>
>> I think it corresponds to last level cache misses, which makes sense
>> here.  The difference in the two numbers represents hits to L2 (and L3
>> if it exists).
>
> How could I know the number of cache level on my cpu ?
>
> I tried:
>
>   $ perf stat -e cache-misses:u,l1d-loads-misses:u true
>
>     Performance counter stats for 'true':
>
>                    802  cache-misses
>                    937  L1-dcache-load-misses
>
>            0.000996578  seconds time elapsed
>
>   $ perf stat -e cache-misses:u,L2-loads-misses:u true
>
>    Performance counter stats for 'true':
>
>                   788  cache-misses
>                    95  LLC-load-misses
>
>           0.001025423  seconds time elapsed
>
> So it looks like you're right: in my case I have this cache
> configuration:
>

oops sorry, I replied too early...

so my cache configuration is:

   L1 -> L2 -> LLC

where L2 misses is given by: 'cache-misses' - 'LLC-load-misses'

Is that correct ?

If so, I found 'cache-misses' term very not intuitive IMHO, probably
because I'm not an expert in cpu caches...

-- 
Francis
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