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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:34:42 -0500
From: Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
Dan Rosenberg <drosenberg@...curity.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
Eugene Teo <eugeneteo@...nel.org>,
Kees Cook <kees.cook@...onical.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix dmesg_restrict build failure with CONFIG_EMBEDDED=y
and CONFIG_PRINTK=n
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> We had this exact problem with the whole "mmap_min_addr" thing. People
>> _thought_ of it as generic, but because it was actually tested by the
>> security logic, if you ended up enabling SELinux the test actually
>> went away entirely (or maybe it was the other way around). So with
>> certain security models, the whole thing was bypassed, and the
>> security module actually became an _IN_security module.
>
> Your recollection is wrong, although your conclusions of the
> ramifications are right. Either SELinux or capabilities checked
> mmap_min_addr, depending on which was 'primary.' Just as they are
> different modules they checked for different things. Only doing
> SELinux checks was stronger for some situations, and only doing
> capability checks was stronger in some ways (and the reverse was
> obviously true). Today you get the best of both worlds since we
> really have 2 different mmap_min_addr values...
>
> In any case the result of that is that LSMs (ok 'I') need to be more
> careful making sure they interact properly with the generic
> capabilities hooks.
>
> From: James Morris
>> I want to ensure that LSMs which implement security_syslog can't end up
>> with a less secure system than the default, regardless of whether they
>> call cap_syslog or not.
>
> Which really means that this is total crap. If you don't call
> cap_syslog() you broke it. That's all there is to it. Calling the
> capability code is always required. full stop.
>
> I think this patch is broken though. SELinux and SMACK don't care
> about from_file and want to check every time no matter what. Your
> patch breaks that and only will call the LSM on occasion. It's only
> capabilities that likes those semantics. I think the entire contents
> of the cap_syslog hook should be moved up and that hook just dropped
> entirely.
>
> I'll code up what I'm thinking in a minute.....
>
> -Eric
I'm sure somebody somewhere hates it, but I was thinking something
like the attached.
include/linux/security.h | 9 ++++-----
kernel/printk.c | 11 ++++++++++-
security/capability.c | 5 +++++
security/commoncap.c | 21 ---------------------
security/security.c | 4 ++--
security/selinux/hooks.c | 6 +-----
security/smack/smack_lsm.c | 8 ++------
7 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 40 deletions(-)
(Personally I think that most of the hooks in commoncap.c code should
be moved out of security/ altogether and we should completely do away
with our current ghetto inter LSM calls. But that's just me)
-Eric
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