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Message-ID: <1289844606.2109.526.camel@laptop>
Date:	Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:10:06 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@...ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@...el.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, John stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH v2 5/7] taskstats: Improve cumulative CPU time
 accounting

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:00 +0100, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:57 +0100
> Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 18:49 +0100, Martin Schwidefsky wrote:
> > > > To what purpose? 
> > >  
> > > Is that a trick question? Why do we have tools like "top"? Or process
> > > accounting? The point is that the quality of the numbers we get right
> > > now is rather bad, the overhead of scanning /proc is horrendous and
> > > the 10ms granularity is rather coarse. 
> > 
> > But you're not just replacing top, you're adding all kinds of new
> > accounting crap all over the place.
> 
> We DO replace top. Patch #7 of 7.

You _also_ replace top, but its not by far the only thing you do. If you
simply replaced top you wouldn't need to add tons of extra accounting,
would you?
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