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Message-Id: <C47257FC-498A-41B0-BC94-C81C72601D53@mit.edu>
Date:	Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:07:12 -0500
From:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....EDU>
To:	Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@...il.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Andev <debiandev@...il.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@...inter.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@...il.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Markus Trippelsdorf <markus@...ppelsdorf.de>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT PATCH v3] sched: automated per tty task groups


On Nov 19, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Ben Gamari wrote:

>> t means it will become
>> impossible to sanely switch off (gnome firmly believes knobs are evil),
>> leaving everybody who _does_ know wth they're doing up a certain creek
>> without a paddle.
> 
> Please, can we stop with this false dichotomy? This is decidedly not
> true and as Lennart has already pointed out, the knob already exists in
> systemd. You may like the kernel approach, but this does not mean there
> is no place for grouping driven by userspace.

Yes, and then at the next release, some idiotic GNOME engineer will decide to the "improve" the system by removing yet another knob....

-- Ted

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