Message-Id: <20101122090431.4ff9c941.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Date:	Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:04:31 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	minchan.kim@...il.com, Bob Liu <lliubbo@...il.com>,
	fujita.tomonori@....ntt.co.jp, m.nazarewicz@...sung.com,
	pawel@...iak.com, andi.kleen@...el.com, felipe.contreras@...il.com,
	"kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] big chunk memory allocator v4

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:56:53 -0800
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:10:33 +0900
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, this is an updated version. 
> > 
> > No major changes from the last one except for page allocation function.
> > removed RFC.
> > 
> > Order of patches is
> > 
> > [1/4] move some functions from memory_hotplug.c to page_isolation.c
> > [2/4] search physically contiguous range suitable for big chunk alloc.
> > [3/4] allocate big chunk memory based on memory hotplug(migration) technique
> > [4/4] modify page allocation function.
> > 
> > For what:
> > 
> >   I hear there is requirements to allocate a chunk of page which is larger than
> >   MAX_ORDER. Now, some (embeded) device use a big memory chunk. To use memory,
> >   they hide some memory range by boot option (mem=) and use hidden memory
> >   for its own purpose. But this seems a lack of feature in memory management.
> > 
> >   This patch adds 
> > 	alloc_contig_pages(start, end, nr_pages, gfp_mask)
> >   to allocate a chunk of page whose length is nr_pages from [start, end)
> >   phys address. This uses similar logic of memory-unplug, which tries to
> >   offline [start, end) pages. By this, drivers can allocate 30M or 128M or
> >   much bigger memory chunk on demand. (I allocated 1G chunk in my test).
> > 
> >   But yes, because of fragmentation, this cannot guarantee 100% alloc.
> >   If alloc_contig_pages() is called in system boot up or movable_zone is used,
> >   this allocation succeeds at high rate.
> 
> So this is an alternatve implementation for the functionality offered
> by Michal's "The Contiguous Memory Allocator framework".
> 

Yes, this will be a backends for that kind of works.

I think there are two ways to allocate contiguous pages larger than MAX_ORDER.

1) hide some memory at boot and add an another memory allocator.
2) support a range allocator as [start, end)

This is an trial from 2). I used memory-hotplug technique because I know some.
This patch itself has no "map" and "management" function, so it should be
developped in another patch (but maybe it will be not my work.)

> >   I tested this on x86-64, and it seems to work as expected. But feedback from
> >   embeded guys are appreciated because I think they are main user of this
> >   function.
> 
> From where I sit, feedback from the embedded guys is *vital*, because
> they are indeed the main users.
> 
> Michal, I haven't made a note of all the people who are interested in
> and who are potential users of this code.  Your patch series has a
> billion cc's and is up to version 6.  Could I ask that you review and
> test this code, and also hunt down other people (probably at other
> organisations) who can do likewise for us?  Because until we hear from
> those people that this work satisfies their needs, we can't really
> proceed much further.
> 

yes. please.

Thanks,
-Kame

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