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Date:	Wed, 24 Nov 2010 17:06:50 +0100
From:	walter harms <wharms@....de>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	Américo Wang 
	<xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@...nwall.com>,
	kernel-janitors@...r.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace



Am 23.11.2010 21:18, schrieb Andrew Morton:
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 11:02:44 -0700
> Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On 2010-11-23, at 07:45, walter harms wrote:
>>> Maybe we can convince the gcc people to make 0 padding default. That will not solve the problems for other compilers but when they claim "works like gcc" we can press then to support this also. I can imagine that this will close some other subtle leaks also.
>>
>> It makes the most sense to tackle this at the GCC level, since the added overhead of doing memset(0) on the whole struct may be non-trivial for commonly-used and/or large structures.
> 
> (My, what long lines you have!)
> 
> We can't reasonably address this with gcc changes.  If gcc starts doing
> what we want in the next release, how long will it be until that
> release is the *oldest* version of gcc which the kernel may be compiled
> with?  Five years?
> 
> 
agreed, but it does not mean not to talk to the gcc people that there is
an interesse to change.

re,
 wh
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