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Date:	Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:18:17 -0200
From:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>
To:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] perf events: Default to using event__process_lost

Em Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:55:24AM +0100, Thomas Gleixner escreveu:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2010, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> 
> > From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
> > 
> > Tool developers have to fill in a 'perf_event_ops' method table to
> > specify how to handle each event, so far the ones that were not
> > explicitely especified would get a stub that would just discard the
> > event.
> > 
> > Change that so that tool developers can get the lost event details and
> > the total number of such events at the end of 'perf report -D' output.
> 
> That should be always displayed if the subcommand does not have it's
> own lost event handling. I stared long enough into the wrong place,
> just because the stupid thing just was silent about it. And with this
> patch it's still silent for the normal use case.

Will make it holler if perf_event_ops->lost == event__process_lost and
self->hists.stats.total_lost != 0, as you suggest.
 
> We really want to tell the user when something went wrong. Users do
> not run perf report -D when the tool shows fancy events, why should
> they? Just because they know that the tool is hiding problems? If
> that's the case then the trust into perf tools is about 0.
> 
> Darn, being silent about a known problem is the most stupid error
> handling ever.
> 
> That's what I added at the end of perf_session__process_events()
> 
> +	if (self->hists.stats.total_lost)
> +		fprintf(stderr, "Lost events. Check IO/CPU overload!\n");
> 
> It's hacky, but it does the job and tells me clearly that the trace is
> only halfways useful.

Ok, will implement it like you suggested, in a followon patch, in both
the --stdio and --tui modes.

- Arnaldo
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