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Date:	Tue, 30 Nov 2010 15:05:33 -0800
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	Jimmy RUBIN <jimmy.rubin@...ricsson.com>,
	Dan JOHANSSON <dan.johansson@...ricsson.com>,
	Marcus LORENTZON <marcus.xm.lorentzon@...ricsson.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-media@...r.kernel.org" <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] MCDE: Add build files and bus

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:05:50PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:48:34AM -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 06:40:49PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > There's lots of static devices, not only platform devices, in the ARM
> > > tree.  It's going to be a hell of a lot of work to fix this all up
> > > properly.
> > 
> > I agree, it's been abused for many years this way :(
> 
> I don't agree that it is abuse - it was something explicitly allowed by
> the original device model design by Patrick, with the condition that
> such a device was never unregistered.  That's exactly the way we treat
> these devices.

I understand Pat allowed this, I just don't agree that it's the correct
thing to do :)

-mm had a patch for a long time that would throw up warnings if you ever
did this for x86 so that arch should be clean of this issue by now.

> What I'm slightly concerned about is that this is going to needlessly
> bloat the kernel - we're going to have to find some other way to store
> this information, and create devices from that - which means additional
> code to do the creation, and data structures for it to create these from.
> There will be additional wastage from kmalloc as kmalloc doesn't allocate
> just the size you ask for, but normally a power of two which will contain
> the size.
> 
> That could potentially mean that as the device structure is 216 bytes,
> kmalloc will use the 256 byte allocation size, which means a wastage of
> 40 bytes per device structure.  On top of that goes the size of
> resources with the allocation slop on top for that, and then there's
> another allocation for the platform data.
> 
> Has anyone considered these implications before making this choice?

Yes, I have, which is one reason I haven't done this type of change yet.
I need to figure out a way to not drasticly increase the size and still
make it easy and simple for the platform and driver write their code.

It's a work in progress, but wherever possible, I encourage people to
not make 'struct device' static.

thanks,

greg k-h
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