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Date:	Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:37:37 +0100
From:	Michael Holzheu <holzheu@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Shailabh Nagar <nagar1234@...ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	John stultz <johnstul@...ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@...ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@...ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-s390@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 4/4] taskstats: Export "cdata_wait" CPU times with
 taskstats

Hello Balbir,

On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 13:03 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> [2010-12-01 19:51:28]:
> 
> > On 11/29, Michael Holzheu wrote:
[snip]
> > Say, taskstats_exit()->fill_stats()->bacct_add_tsk(). Every thread
> > does this, including the group_leader. But, it is possible that
> > group_leader exits first, before other threads. IOW, what
> > stats->ac_cXtime actually mean?
> > 
> 
> stats->ac_* time was designed only for tgid's to begin with,

You mean for tids (threads/tasks), no? stats->ac_* time is only reported
for threads in bacct_add_tsk() and not for tgids.

> so I am
> not sure if ac_cXtime makes sense for threads

I would suggest to do it the same way as /proc/<tgid>/tasks/<tid>/stat.
It reports the (same) cumulative time for each thread. See
do_task_stat() in fs/proc/array.c. So IMHO also for taskstats it makes
sense to include the cXtime for all threads and not only for the thread
group leader. 

Also I would include tgid in taskstats so that userspace can group the
tasks into thread groups. 

I am not sure regarding the aggregation for tgids in
TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_TGID and exit events with group_dead=1. Currently
only the delay accounting numbers are aggregated. If we would do it
like /proc/<tgid>/stat (do_task_stat() with whole=1) we also could
aggregate also the other values e.g. the CPU time.

I think the following tgid data would make sense to be returned for
TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_TGID and exit events with group_dead=1:

bacct_add_tsk():
----------------
ac_pid         thread group leader (tsk->tgid)
ac_etime       thread group leader
ac_btime       thread group leader
ac_nice        thread group leader
ac_sched       thread group leader
ac_uid         thread group leader
ac_gid         thread group leader
ac_ppid        thread group leader
ac_comm        thread group leader
ac_exit_code   thread group leader
ac_flags       thread group leader
ac_utimescaled ??
ac_stimescaled ??
ac_utime       sum for all live threads + cdata_threads
ac_stime       sum for all live threads + cdata_threads
ac_minflt      sum for all live threads + cdata_threads
ac_majflt      sum for all live threads + cdata_threads

new:
ac_cutime      cdata_wait
ac_cstime      cdata_wait
ac_tgid        thread group leader

xacct_add_tsk():
----------------
coremem        ?
virtmem        ?
hiwater_rss    thread group leader
hiwater_vm     thread group leader
read_char      sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
write_char     sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
read_syscalls  sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
write_syscalls sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
read_bytes     sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
write bytes    sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
cancelled_write_bytes sum for all live threads + tsk->signal.ioac
  
If we leave everything as it currently is for tgid accounting, we
probably should also not include the cXtime for tgids and just include
the data for threads (TASKSTATS_CMD_ATTR_PID and task exit events).

What do you think?

Michael




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