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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:29:57 -0800
From: Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc: Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@...uu.se>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [BUG] 2.6.37-rc3 massive interactivity regression on ARM
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:17:02PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 01:32:37PM +0100, Mikael Pettersson wrote:
>> > Mikael Pettersson writes:
>> > > The scenario is that I do a remote login to an ARM build server,
>> > > use screen to start a sub-shell, in that shell start a largish
>> > > compile job, detach from that screen, and from the original login
>> > > shell I occasionally monitor the compile job with top or ps or
>> > > by attaching to the screen.
>> > >
>> > > With kernels 2.6.37-rc2 and -rc3 this causes the machine to become
>> > > very sluggish: top takes forever to start, once started it shows no
>> > > activity from the compile job (it's as if it's sleeping on a lock),
>> > > and ps also takes forever and shows no activity from the compile job.
>> > >
>> > > Rebooting into 2.6.36 eliminates these issues.
>> > >
>> > > I do pretty much the same thing (remote login -> screen -> compile job)
>> > > on other archs, but so far I've only seen the 2.6.37-rc misbehaviour
>> > > on ARM EABI, specifically on an IOP n2100. (I have access to other ARM
>> > > sub-archs, but haven't had time to test 2.6.37-rc on them yet.)
>> > >
>> > > Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas about the cause?
>> >
>> > (Re-followup since I just realised my previous followups were to Rafael's
>> > regressions mailbot rather than the original thread.)
>> >
>> > > The bug is still present in 2.6.37-rc4. I'm currently trying to bisect it.
>> >
>> > git bisect identified
>> >
>> > [305e6835e05513406fa12820e40e4a8ecb63743c] sched: Do not account irq time to current task
>> >
>> > as the cause of this regression. Reverting it from 2.6.37-rc4 (requires some
>> > hackery due to subsequent changes in the same area) restores sane behaviour.
>> >
>> > The original patch submission talks about irq-heavy scenarios. My case is the
>> > exact opposite: UP, !PREEMPT, NO_HZ, very low irq rate, essentially 100% CPU
>> > bound in userspace but expected to schedule quickly when needed (e.g. running
>> > top or ps or just hitting CR in one shell while another runs a compile job).
>> >
>> > I've reproduced the misbehaviour with 2.6.37-rc4 on ARM/mach-iop32x and
>> > ARM/mach-ixp4xx, but ARM/mach-kirkwood does not misbehave, and other archs
>> > (x86 SMP, SPARC64 UP and SMP, PowerPC32 UP, Alpha UP) also do not misbehave.
>> >
>> > So it looks like an ARM-only issue, possibly depending on platform specifics.
>> >
>> > One difference I noticed between my Kirkwood machine and my ixp4xx and iop32x
>> > machines is that even though all have CONFIG_NO_HZ=y, the timer irq rate is
>> > much higher on Kirkwood, even when the machine is idle.
>>
>> The above patch you point out is fundamentally broken.
>>
>> + rq->clock = sched_clock_cpu(cpu);
>> + irq_time = irq_time_cpu(cpu);
>> + if (rq->clock - irq_time > rq->clock_task)
>> + rq->clock_task = rq->clock - irq_time;
>>
>> This means that we will only update rq->clock_task if it is smaller than
>> rq->clock. So, eventually over time, rq->clock_task becomes the maximum
>> value that rq->clock can ever be. Or in other words, the maximum value
>> of sched_clock_cpu().
>>
>> Once that has been reached, although rq->clock will wrap back to zero,
>> rq->clock_task will not, and so (I think) task execution time accounting
>> effectively stops dead.
>>
>> I guess this hasn't been noticed on x86 as they have a 64-bit sched_clock,
>> and so need to wait a long time for this to be noticed. However, on ARM
>> where we tend to have 32-bit counters feeding sched_clock(), this value
>> will wrap far sooner.
>
> I'm not so sure about this - certainly that if() statement looks very
> suspicious above. As irq_time_cpu() will always be zero, can you try
> removing the conditional?
>
> In any case, sched_clock_cpu() should be resilient against sched_clock()
> wrapping. However, your comments about it being iop32x and ixp4xx
> (both of which are 32-bit-counter-to-ns based implementations) and
> kirkwood being a 32-bit-extended-to-63-bit-counter-to-ns implementation
> does make me wonder...
>
That conditional is based on assumption that sched_clock_cpu() is u64.
If that is not true and sched_clock_cpu() is 32 wrapping around, then there
are other places in scheduler which may have problems as well, where
we do curr_time - prev_time kind of calculations in u64.
For example, update_curr() has:
delta_exec = (unsigned long)(now - curr->exec_start);
which is based on rq->clock and can end up as high positive number
in case of 32 bit wraparound.
Having said that, this conditional can be cleaned up to handle the potential
64 bit overflow (even after a long long time) cleanly. But, it will be good to
know what exactly is going wrong here though.
Thanks,
Venki
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