linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] bind/unbind uevent

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1012081115250.1909@localhost6.localdomain6>
Date:	Wed, 8 Dec 2010 11:16:46 +0100 (CET)
From:	Sebastian Ott <sebott@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
cc:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] bind/unbind uevent

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 06:29:37PM +0100, Sebastian Ott wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 05:18:27PM +0100, Sebastian Ott wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > There is currently no generic trigger for userspace to know when a driver
> > > > is bound to a device.
> > > 
> > > Not true at all, you get one when a device is attached to a bus.  What's
> > > wrong with that notification?
> > we get a KOBJ_ADD if a device is attached to a bus, but this does not
> > imply that a device driver is bound to this device
> 
> You can get that information from that uevent, it's all there for you to
> listen to.
> 
> > > > Such a trigger may be required in cases where setup
> > > > steps must be performed in userspace after the device is bound, e.g.
> > > > because the driver adds sysfs attributes in its probe function.
> > > 
> > > A driver should not add sysfs attributes in its probe function as that
> > > is racy as you have noticed.  Add the attributes in the bus functions
> > > for that driver and it should be fine.
> > sry..I was not clear on this one. I was talking driver specific
> > attributes per device.
> 
> No, I understand.
> 
> > So I'm searching for a trigger when these attributes are created, or
> > in other words when the device is useable, which I think translates to
> > when a driver is bound to this device.
> 
> Again, KOBJ_ADD is the correct one.
> 
> If your driver is creating sysfs attributes on its own, that's a bug and
> should be fixed.

Ok, understood. The sad part is, that virtually all s390 device drivers
do this. I've not checked the archives, but i guess this is the status
since the 2.6 release. I don't think that changing all those drivers (not
to mention userspace relying on the structure) is an option here.

Regards,
Sebastian
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