linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2 v1] Ioctl for reading block queue information

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1012101855070.2813@dhcp-lab-213.englab.brq.redhat.com>
Date:	Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:59:51 +0100 (CET)
From:	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@...hat.com>
To:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
cc:	Lukas Czerner <lczerner@...hat.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	tytso@....edu, sandeen@...hat.com, hch@...radead.org,
	axboe@...nel.dk
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2 v1] Ioctl for reading block queue information

On Fri, 10 Dec 2010, Greg KH wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:07:20PM +0100, Lukas Czerner wrote:
> > On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2010-12-09, at 12:20, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 04:25:35PM +0100, Lukas Czerner wrote:
> > > >> For a long time it has been pretty painful to retrieve informations from
> > > >> /sys/block/*/queue for particular block device. Not only it is painful
> > > >> to retrieve informations within C tool, parsing strings, etc, but one
> > > >> have to run into problem even finding the proper path in sysfs.
> > > > 
> > > > What's wrong with using libudev?  That should give you all of this
> > > > information easily using a .c program without any need to change the
> > > > kernel at all.
> > 
> > What's wrong with using libudev ? Well, fist of all I have never heard
> > about it:), one can argue this is kind of my fault, and second of all
> > the documentation is kind of non-existent (almost).
> > 
> > But, despite this I did gave libudev a quick try and I must say, it
> > works, however it is not as simple as calling "ioctl(fd,
> > BLKGETQUEUEINFO, &val)" as Andreas pointed out.
> > 
> > So, in my use-case, I have a path to the device provided by the user
> > (strictly speaking it may not be device but for example symbolic link
> > /dev/mapper/something) and I need to retrieve queue information like
> > discard_granularity, discard_alignment etc... usually stored in place
> > like /sys/block/sda/queue/*.
> > 
> > With libudev I need to:
> > 
> > 1. create the udev obejct:
> > 
> > 	udev = udev_new();
> > 	if (!udev) {
> > 		printf("Can't create udev\n");
> > 		exit(1);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 2. Check the path for the block device
> > 
> > 	stat(name, &buf);
> > 	if (!S_ISBLK(buf.st_mode)) {
> > 		printf("Not a block device\n");
> > 		exit(1);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 3. Get udev device object
> > 
> > 	dev = udev_device_new_from_devnum(udev, 'b', buf.st_rdev);
> > 	if (!dev) {
> > 		printf("Can not find the device\n");
> > 		exit(1);
> > 	}
> > 
> > 4. Construct path for sysfs attribute I need:
> > 
> > 	snprintf(path, PATH_MAX, "%s/queue/%s",
> > 	                udev_device_get_syspath(dev),
> > 			"discard_granularity");
> 
> Hm, what about just using the libudev functions for attributes instead?
> That should save you this step, and the next one.

I do not really see how, reference manual is not exactly helpful with
this and I have got the impression that libudev functions are not able
to retrieve queue information, but rather device properties, basically
only from /sys/block/sda/* directory, not subdirectories.

-Lukas

> 
> > 5. Open the sysfs file, get page-sized buffer and parse text :-/ (without
> >    checks now):
> > 
> > 	read(fd, buffer, pagesize);
> > 	sscanf(buffer, "%lu", &value);
> > 	printf("max_hw_sector_size: %lu\n",value);
> > 
> > Which is opposed to BLKGETQUEUEINFO steps (define val, invoke ioctl,
> > check result) a bit longer. But I can definitely see you point, it is
> > feasible and since we have libudev we might want to use this in
> > userspace. The fact is I would really want to stand up and defend my
> > ioctl approach, but libudev just might provide what I need without
> > proceeding the just-another-ioctl-madness on kernel lists :).
> 
> Please use libudev.  What happens next week when we add a new sysfs
> attribute to block devices?  Then your ioctl just broke and you have to
> create a new one.
> 
> No, use sysfs for what it was made for, from userspace, don't add custom
> ioctls for this.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
> 
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