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Message-ID: <20110110134050.GK2202@redhat.com>
Date:	Mon, 10 Jan 2011 15:40:50 +0200
From:	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>
To:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
Cc:	Milton Miller <miltonm@....com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@...ibm.com>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	Thomas Weber <swirl@....li>,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio: remove virtio-pci root device

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 03:31:40PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 02:50:11PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 02:08:08PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:42:19PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:27:39PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:22:05PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:18:59PM +0200, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 09, 2011 at 05:18:21PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 02:55:06AM -0600, Milton Miller wrote:
> > > > > > > > > We sometimes need to map between the virtio device and
> > > > > > > > > the given pci device. One such use is OS installer that
> > > > > > > > > gets the boot pci device from BIOS and needs to
> > > > > > > > > find the relevant block device. Since it can't,
> > > > > > > > > installation fails.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Instead of creating a top-level devices/virtio-pci
> > > > > > > > > directory, create each device under the corresponding
> > > > > > > > > pci device node.  Symlinks to all virtio-pci
> > > > > > > > > devices can be found under the pci driver link in
> > > > > > > > > bus/pci/drivers/virtio-pci/devices, and all virtio
> > > > > > > > > devices under drivers/bus/virtio/devices.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Milton Miller <miltonm@....com>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK, this works fine for me.  I played with options to add compat
> > > > > > > > softlinks under devices/virtio-pci but we still don't get exactly the
> > > > > > > > same layout and since I don't think anyone actually uses them, it's
> > > > > > > > probably ok to just to the simple thing.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Tested/Acked-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@...hat.com>
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Rusty, since this help fix at least one user, any chance this can be put
> > > > > > > > in 2.6.38? OK to backport to -stable?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Gleb, could you try this out too?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > With this patch if I have 3 virtio disks for a VM I get:
> > > > > > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/virtio0/block/vda
> > > > > > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/virtio1/block/vdb
> > > > > > > /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/virtio2/block/vdc
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Number after virtio has no much sense. It either should be dropped at all
> > > > > > > or be always zero in case we will support more then one virtio controller
> > > > > > > per pci card. In that case each virtio controller will have directories
> > > > > > > virtio0/virtio1/virtio2... under same pci device directory.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes. But this is the bus name.  It must be unique - all devices
> > > > > > also appear under /sys/bus/virtio/devices.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > It is very strange king of bus that is spread over several PCI devices :)
> > > > > It doesn't make much sense IMHO, but I can leave with it.
> > > > > 
> > > > I can't "leave" with it, but I can "live" with it.
> > > 
> > > The virtio bus is an attempt to make as many applications as
> > > possible work transparently on any virtio system,
> > > be it lguest, s390 or pci. Arbitrary IDs is just a hint to the
> > > applications 'don't rely on the name at all'.
> > > 
> > Shouldn't sysfs directory reflect real device topology?
> 
> What exactly is proposed here? Are you acking or nacking this patch?
> Prefer the older version? Can send your own?
> 
What exactly is proposed is to get rid of random number in virtio
directory name. If this is complicated, as I said above, I can live
with it as is.

> > There are other buses AFAIK that connected differently on different
> > HW. How virtio is special?
> > What applications this allow to work transparently?
> 
> I don't know which applications use the current sysfs topology
> but the assumption that there are none and we can break it
> arbitrarily seems a bit drastic.
> 
> > --
> > 			Gleb.

--
			Gleb.
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