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Date:	Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:45:53 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@...ox.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	Mark Lord <kernel@...savvy.com>,
	"Ahmed S. Darwish" <darwish.07@...il.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, X86-ML <x86@...nel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>, Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <wtarreau@...a.kernel.org>,
	Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>, Dirk Hohndel <hohndel@...radead.org>,
	Dirk.Hohndel@...el.com, IDE-ML <linux-ide@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Frédéric Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2][concept RFC] x86: BIOS-save kernel log to disk upon
 panic


* Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au> wrote:

> > In the end you end up with something that looks, again, like kexec/kdump.
> 
> That was the proposed solution back then, too.  If I'd realized how long that 
> would take to arrive, I would have kept pushing...

That's what happens when a feature crosses 2 or 3 project boundaries: from the 
reasonable 2-3 months upstream arrival time it lengthens to a few years, up to a 
decade.

The solution is IMO obvious: move the kexec tools into tools/ and integrate it much 
more tightly and make it all more usable to the average kernel tester.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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