linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM-HV: KVM Steal time implementation

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Message-ID: <4D483E43.5060904@redhat.com>
Date:	Tue, 01 Feb 2011 19:09:23 +0200
From:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
To:	Glauber Costa <glommer@...hat.com>
CC:	kvm@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	aliguori@...ibm.com, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@...rix.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/6] KVM-HV: KVM Steal time implementation

On 02/01/2011 05:48 PM, Glauber Costa wrote:
> >  >  @@ -2106,6 +2120,25 @@ void kvm_arch_vcpu_load(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, int cpu)
> >  >    			kvm_migrate_timers(vcpu);
> >  >    		vcpu->cpu = cpu;
> >  >    	}
> >  >  +
> >  >  +	if (vcpu->arch.this_time_out) {
> >  >  +		u64 to = (get_kernel_ns() - vcpu->arch.this_time_out);
> >  >  +		/*
> >  >  +		 * using nanoseconds introduces noise, which accumulates easily
> >  >  +		 * leading to big steal time values. We want, however, to keep the
> >  >  +		 * interface nanosecond-based for future-proofness.
> >  >  +		 */
> >  >  +		to /= NSEC_PER_USEC;
> >  >  +		to *= NSEC_PER_USEC;
> >
> >  Seems there is a real problem and that this is just papering it over.
> >  I'd like to understand the root cause.
> Okay, my self-explanation seemed reasonable to me, but since both you
> and Peter dislike it, I think it is important enough to get a more
> thorough investigation before a second round.

Yes please.

> But in this case,
> I keep that using nanoseconds may then not be the best approach here. We
> also have to keep in mind that the host and guest clocks may be running
> at different resolutions.

We need to choose a resolution for the clock (or negotiate one), an 
nanoseconds seems as good as any from a range and precision 
considerations, and is convenient for the host and Linux guests.  So why 
not pick it?

> >  >  +		vcpu->arch.sversion += 2;
> >
> >  Doesn't survive live migration.  You need to use the version from the
> >  guest area.
> Why not? Who said versions need to always increase? If current version
> is 102324, and we live migrate and it becomes 0, what is the problem?

Guest reads version (result: 2)
Guest starts reading data
Live migration; vcpu->arch.sversion is zeroed
Steal time update; vcpu->arch.sversion += 2; write to guest
Guest continues reading data
Guest reads version (result: 2)

So the guest is unaware that an update has occurred while it was reading 
the data.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

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